Stiverne had seen better days when Wilder wiped him out in 1 round but people don't like to mention that he was inactive for 16 months after that, put on 20 lbs, came back at 40 and fought the top contender Joyce in atrocious condition, taking Joyce into the 6th round. You can't ask for more than a 1st round KO and the win has aged well.
Dubblechin is the only Wilder fan I'm aware of on these forums so it was hardly a wild stab in the dark. I thought that Fury won the first fight on punches landed, effective defence and ring generalship but the fight was more competitive than most like to admit, Fury has doing a lot of holding and Wilder scored 2 KD's, the second of which could have easily got the fight immediately waved off. Fury was rusty and in poor condition but I'm not going to complain about the draw. Wilder has an enormous ego and needs to protect it by buying into delusional narratives. If it gives him more confidence of winning the trilogy then it's probably an advantage for him.
He's not racist, i know his real agenda. He's trying to hype Wilder out the ass in a delusional attempt to make Fury's resume look better. I've already wrecked him in a debate and he won't reply to the conversation messages or my posts. He thinks Fury is the greatest heavyweight of all time and he simply won't stop pushing the ridiculous agenda no matter what, even if that means exaggerating Wilder's record while downplaying everyone elses resume like Michael Hunter's for example He literally said Jennings is faster than Parker and that Wilder is an All Time Great. You cannot make this up
Behave. He was a terrible opponent. I like your use of what constitutes being a top contender and a fringe contender (when it suits your argument). Earlier you said that if Hunter was a top contender then he should be sparking out Povetkin, who was barely a fringe top 10 guy. Yet you completely neglected the fact that Povetkin then went out to sleep Whyte (a top contender). Povetkin was seen as a top 5 guy. And as for Joyce being a “top contender”, he really was not. He’s arguably not one now. Let him beat a top 10 contender before we jump the gun. Look, if you want to put Wilder into some legendary status, you do that. Personally I’m confident he’ll retire as the guy that required his own personal index page just to list his excuses.
Complete fallacy, Whyte is a fringe contender as I will soon document. Joyce is a top contender because it's very feasible that he could beat AJ, Wilder or Usyk and he is very well placed to win a vacant belt after they become fragmented again. There is no real shame in losing to the GOAT but there is plenty of shame in losing to a 25-1 pudding on your U.S. debut.
Oh, how noble of you. I'd hate to see you complain about a non-deserving robbery. It's no wonder you like to juggle his baby-makers in your mouth. You've got more in common than you think.
Showing promise is not the same as being a top contender. I’m confident that Tony Yoka could and would easily beat Whyte. That doesn’t make him a top contender. You have to earn that status, hence why Whyte is generally regarded as one of the top contenders. Regardless of what you or I believe makes a top contender, this nonsense started when you, in a roundabout way, tried to put some praise on the second Stiverne match/win. Stiverne is a punchbag, and Wilder hits very hard. That it took Joyce several rounds to shift him doesn’t mean much to me. If it makes you feel any better I also think Wilder wipes out Whyte. It’s a great party trick. Unfortunately we generally only see it performed against no hopers.
I used to like Hunter OK, but the Hrgovic thing was one of the most off-putting moves anyone in the sport has made without doing something that really hurt a person outside a ring. At least have enough regard for your audience to lie to us, say you got covid and need a tuneup, you've become allergic to Croatians, anything.
lol. You're posting on all of my threads defending Joseph Parker. The Hunter and Parker threads weren't even related to Wilder. The fact that you think I'm someone who rabidly defends Wilder when I have said regard him as delusional shows that you are a fanboy who is unable to think logically. Bye.
I don't care about whether Whyte, Parker, Hunter or Ruiz are "generally regarded" as top contenders by casuals due to some promoter's PR job, in reality they are fringe contenders. I have done two polls so far about whether these men (none of whom are younger than 29.5 or older than 33.5) will win a world heavyweight title or win one again and the results when I last checked were: 2-36 for Parker, 0-27 for Hunter. I think we'd agree that there is no need to do a poll on Ruiz. The fact that users of this forum are virtually unanimous that they are unlikely to win titles confirms my analysis that however much they have been marketed and given opportunities, they are not genuine contenders. Seeing as AJ has been a big, huge or insane favourite in literally every fight of his career so far while Wilder has been close to even money on three occasions, I would say that AJ's opponents fit the label of "no hopers" better than Wilder's. One of his no-hopers even managed to beat him.
Hunter's quality. Reminds me a bit of Jennings a few years back. Was a bit disappointed he didn't fight Hrgovic, but it's not an immediate black ball. Hopefully he takes on someone decent soon. I'd be interested in a fight with any of Rivas, Gassiev, Jennings himself, Ruiz, Parker or Whyte. All potentially winnable fights for him.
