Arum: "AJ is overrated"

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Is Joshua overrated?

  1. Yes

    31 vote(s)
    30.4%
  2. No

    43 vote(s)
    42.2%
  3. A bit

    25 vote(s)
    24.5%
  4. He's the best HW around

    13 vote(s)
    12.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joshua is unified Champion at moment but he does have flaws. When Ruiz beat Joshua it elevated Ruiz but ate away at Joshuas legacy then when Ruiz went life and death with Arreola it ate a bit more away of Joshuas legacy and dropped Ruiz back down to the level he was at before the Joshua win. That’s just boxing for you tbh. jmo
     
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  2. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog My name is Buck and I'm here to... Full Member

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    Depends who you ask to rate him. That considered I took option 3. I'll be interested to see how the Usyk fight works out.
     
  3. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    overrated/underrated threads are pointless
     
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  4. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Or did he fail a test? I can't remember now...
     
  5. Sean weir

    Sean weir Active Member Full Member

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    Joshua was overrated until the Ruiz loss. Now I think he is deservingly getting the credit he deserves. He’s beat some great opposition, yeah some of them were old like Wladimir, but even the shot Wladimir would of beat everyone else in the division at the time, bar Fury.
     
  6. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Active Member Full Member

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    Are you comparing David Tua to Tyson Fury? Otherwise, how is that even relevant to my post?

    Fury absolutely has the tools to beat Lewis. Lewis has been knocked out by lesser men and isn't infallible. Key word is "could", by the way.
     
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  7. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sadly not only this or x like this. A.J resume is geriatric house while he maybe is very good.
     
  8. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Active Member Full Member

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    I think this is the first time I've ever replied to you mate, but whatever floats your boat.
     
  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All right then Kiwi let's talk some boxing.

    1. Lewis avenged his losses, one being an immediate rematch and he avenged that one in devastating fashion.

    2. Lewis absolutely has the tools to beat Fury so what's your point. Also define tools because jabbing and moving wont stop the fire fight Lewis would bring to Fury. Lewis is not gunshy old Klitschko who will follow Fury and throw 3 punches a round. Lewis was agressive against taller men and would force Fury into a dog fight, and Lewis is by far the better inside fighter. Lewis trained perfecting the Kronk Style for almost a decade wheras Fury has just now been working under Sugar Hill for about 2 and unlike Wlad Lewis was versatile, could counterpunch, could fight in the pocket when needed, went to the body when needed, had multiple dimensions to his jab and is a better combination puncher than Wlad and Fury himself

    3. Lewis's resume is also significantly better

    Fury's resume: Past it Wlad, Wilder, Chisora.

    Lewis's resume: past it Holyfield, Mercer, Golota, Tua, Bruno, Ruddock, Vitali, Morrison, and Grant. I took Rahman and Tucker out of Lewis's resume to make it fairer and even then his resume eclipses Fury's.

    Had Fury fought several world class heavyweights like Lewis instead of retiring immediately after beating Klitschko, coming back, fighting nobodies and having a trillogy with the same guy while sitting on his belt for 2 years, he probably would have eventually lost as well. Fury could beat him but so could Peter, and Douglas, and Joshua, and Witherspoon, and Cooney, and Povetkin, and Ibeabuchi, but just like Fury they'd be significant underdogs against Lennox Lewis.

    Fury is a good fighter and could become this generations ATG but until he clears the division to back it up i don't see him potentially beating Lewis because if someone had Fury's number, stylistically it would be Lewis
     
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  10. divac

    divac VIP Member Full Member

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    If Joshua were promoted by Top Rank, Arum would be saying he's the best Heavyweight since Ali.
     
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  11. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior VIP Member Full Member

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    watch how dillian deals with wallin
     
  12. Brixton Bomber

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    Boom!
     
  13. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, Lewis was ATG because he ducked rematch vs his late away corner opponent in Vitali, how cool Lewis was.
    Lewis definitely was better than old Klits cos he DUCKED with retirement when he was 38 y.o.
    Lewis fans are even giving him excuses here like he was overweight and obese and unprepared and are bitching how cool boxer Lewis was and how Vitali face had looked after this fight.

    Classic British **** hole.

    If your bum Lennox Lewis had balls to continue to fight when he was older than 38 y.o, I guess it is too hard for british BUM while must have thing for non british fighters like Klits, Holyfield and Mike etc.

    Sure.
    LOL.

    If your british bully Lewis had in the ring his own size and weight and age Holyfield, how great crude, rude and selfish pavian Lennox might had looked?
    LOL.

    Do not sell here nice tale about Vitali face.
    BUM Lennox Lewis had retired when he was 38 yo cos he was overrated cash cow and DUCK.
    DUCK LENNOX LEWIS!
    DUCK.

    Quack Quack British hype job and DUCK Quack.

    Quack with fans like you here, Quack DUCK BELT Lewis.
    LOL.
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    https://c8.alamy.com/comp/G78G8W/th...vitali-klitschko-at-the-post-fight-G78G8W.jpg
     
  15. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I even did not had watched picture.
    Dumb Lewis fan: you think Lewis is more masculine than Vitali cos these cuts, you british troll.
    Lewis might had looked like pupp after few kicks LOL.

    Sadistic dumb troll nothing more, also Lewis was duck cos he had retired when he was 38 y.o.

    And do not try to impress me with crude pavian Lewis boxing skills.
    He might had looked like a pupp vs old Holy and Mike if they were in Lewis size and weight, LOL.

    Crude, raw pavian Lennox Lewis THE GOAT bully with you: troll and rude pavian like YOU.
    BTW maybe you are Lewis my KID?
    U had cofee with Daniel the GREAT ?

    Nasty dumb troll, your own face will not bother you if you had used your local gym.
    LOL.

    You my PUPP never had been hit in the face by any one who does knows what he is doing.
    Otherwise you had been better nasty troll.

    I normally will place you on ingore list as nasty pupps should be placed.
    Including pupp Lennox Lewis PUPP DUCK BELT.