What does AJ have to do to reach ATG status?

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  1. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Have a serious ko streak Ala Golovkin as well. He needs to look unbeatable from this point for the better part of a decade.
     
  2. Tabby73

    Tabby73 New Member Full Member

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    The ref who knows far more than you has said AJ didn’t quit…stop making up stories what are you 5years old …?
     
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    drenlou VIP Member

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    If he beats USYK hes an ATG, right ESB? AJ becomes p4p number 1, right?
     
  4. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Don’t think it is possible with the current group of opponents. He is likely going to have to fight until he is 40 to even be in the discussion.
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    beating Usyk , Fury and becoming undisputed would make him greater than Liston , Patterson , Johnson and a few others. ATG status is definitely achievable if he ends his run without taking another loss.
     
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  6. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ohh, yeah, he is even better boxer than this selfish, rude and crude bully pavian Lewis.

    He just should to become an undisputed and do title defenses in row.
    I think prime per prime had had KTFOed Lewis out cold with a glance.
     
  7. BELLERS

    BELLERS Active Member Full Member

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    Duran quit against SRL & is a 'great'. So AJ losing to Ruiz could be overlooked in time.
    I just think he has so much negativity on these boards, that even a winning run from now until retirement means he will not be an ATG.
     
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  8. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nothing wrong, he just should be 2-1 vs Ruiz not 1-1 like he is now.
    Patterson was 0-1 and turned into 2-1 vs Johanson and looks that ppl had forgive him his first loss.
     
  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    AJ will forever be remembered for bieng an adonis who lost to a little fat man and a big fat man.
     
  10. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    He ranks higher than Fury
     
  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua will never be in the all time great category, he simply doesn't have what it takes.
     
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  12. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beat Fury and Wilder and we can talk.
     
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  13. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    All he can do is be the best of his era. If he beats Usyk and gains the undisputed by beating the winner of Fury vs Wilder then he's in the conversation.

    Then it's the subjective task of comparing opponents, eras etc. At that point he may come short simply due to the comparative strength of the division in bygone days. That's not in his control though, all he can do is beat what's in front of him and ask the question.

    I wouldn't say the loss to Ruiz puts him out of contention. Plenty of the best have a loss or two on their record. It sets him back though of course.
     
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  14. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Ruiz loss will always come up. As others have said, he will ned to beat Usyk and Fury and dominate for the next half decade at least. A KO of Ruiz would be good too, but the loss will still be mentioned. He's not alone in losing to non-great fighters in his physical prime, though. Foreman, Tyson, Lewis and Wlad did as well. And it's not like Ali and Holy were ring wrecks when they lost to Norton and Moorer. And while Schmeling was a former champion, I wouldn't call him a great.

    If Ruiz gets some good wins, that would also lessen the stigma of that loss a bit. But it will always come up, no matter what AJ achieves in the future.
     
  15. Sean weir

    Sean weir Active Member Full Member

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    I think that will do it to be honest.
     
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