A Fired Up Oliver McCall Vs Sonny Liston?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Oliver's up for this fight, he wants the Bear, before that young Cassius guy gets him.
    Oh and it's 15 Rounds.


    Who wins?
     
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  2. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Liston beats any version of McCall. Better puncher, better boxer, better jab
     
  4. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Liston beats him like a drum. Different level in skill here.
     
  5. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    McCall has no chance in this matchup. McCall's win over Lewis says a lot more about Lewis than it does about McCall.
     
  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A prime Lewis would beat Liston.
     
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just because someone has a granite chin doesn't mean they could beat someone who's known for their power. Liston is a much better fighter.
     
  9. Pat M

    Pat M Active Member Full Member

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    McCall, bigger, stronger, better stamina, if one believes that SL had an 84" reach, that would be only slightly longer than OM. OM is not going to be hurt by Liston, he wasn't hurt by anybody else. Liston would be a small opponent in OM's time. OM at 6-2, 230+ of solid muscle like he was for the Lewis fight would be an opponent unlike any SL ever faced.

    McCall would not be like a Roy Harris, or Zora Folley, he'd be a big, strong, tough athlete, who would not tire as the rounds wore on. OM was much different than any of SL's actual opponents. I don't think SL ever went 15 rounds, OM never had stamina problems. I'd take a motivated OM.
     
  10. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bull****.
     
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  11. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oliver McCall would lose the decision. It's just like every McCall fantasy matchup. McCall is going nowhere. The man's face was made of concrete.
     
  12. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Liston was too physically strong and too mentally rugged for McCall. If he doesn't wear McCall down and knock him out late, then Liston wins by a very easy decision.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Liston has never encountered anybody like Lewis. He's good but he's overrated. Both are actually overrated but Liston more. He fought and manhandles a bunch of cruisers and beat the occasional medium sized heavyweight. nobody as big as Lewis. Lewis manhandled 6'7, 250lb Michael Grant, how's that for a feat of strength ? Don't even bring up that chinny cruiserweight named Patterson and Cleavland Williams wasn't that big either. Lewis often and rightly gets criticized for getting flattened twice but Williams also got brutally KO'd by light heavyweight Bob Satterfield who i highly doubt hits as hard as 235 pound Hasim Rahman and he also got KO'd by Ali and 3 others in his career

    And Ray Mercer had an iron chin which is why he exchanged with Lewis repeatedly without getting hurt once and was bigger than Sonny Liston, i know somebody will bring that up too.
     
  14. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I hope I didn't **** you off by saying bull****.

    There's flaws with some of your statements though.

    1) it's not a huge feat for a six foot six guy to destroy a six seven go. You said that as though he overcame someone to whom he was dwarfed by.
    2) Liston was not much larger than the guys he beat like Patterson, Folley, and Machen.
    3) Williams was a big guy. He made Liston look small.
    4) the Liston KOs that Williams suffered were the only ones that can credibly be mentioned. He had a bum leg and was in his mid thirties to early forties when all the other knockouts came.
    5) Mercer may have been heavier, but both he and Liston were the same height.
     
  15. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Addict Full Member

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    McCall maybe has a moment or two but like William Walker says, once Liston gets going McCall is going to tick down the offense and tick up the defense. Liston by UD.