Why do people say AJ is an Olympic champ?

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  1. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Please help me understand why people think that.

    He clearly got beat in the final by Cammarelle and also was absolutely schooled by Savon earlier on, 2 really shocking robberies on his way to Olympic gold.

    He's a great pro and hes a much better boxer now but he didn't win the gold, if London 2012 wasn't rigged, he would have been out in the round of 16.

    People shouldn't use "Olympic champion vs Olympic champion" when hyping up this fight.
     
  2. JordanK2406

    JordanK2406 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because he was the Olympic champion. Doesn’t matter if the results weren’t the right one the fact is he WAS the 2012 Olympic champion regardless of if he deserved to. It’s a fact. It’s the case with all these what if things they don’t matter as it can’t changed nothing
     
  3. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not.
    Amateur boxing is like basketball.
    Lets say one team won a game 100-68 and 10 minutes after the game it was announced that they actually lost 66-68. That's basically what happened. It's literally the equivalent of not counting every other point in basketball for one team.

    People should start boycotting **** like that, everyone keeps ignoring the robberies in boxing. Canelo vs GGG is already forgotten, Valdez vs Conceicao will be forgotten in a month. People should remember the robberies as ignoring them does boxers who got robbed injustice.
     
  4. miniq

    miniq Tyson Fury Undisputed HW Champion 18/5/24 banned Full Member

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    It's what put me off AJ before he turned pro

    manufactured & gifted from the beginning. First belt bought for from a bum named Charles

    Adored by casuals who likes muscles

    Flattened by a little fat men then has the cheek to BOAST about becoming a 2x champ, only because he LOST his champ status & had to regain it

    then you had Tyson Fury on the other hand, total opposite.

    Imagine losing every other fight but then winning your belts back multiple times and calling yourself a 2/3/4 time champ from re-avenging them losses. That's not how it works.

    Does Wilder boast he is 2x champ if he beats Fury 3rd time out?

    To my knowledge Fury is the only one who took out two different champions in their own backyards earning a real 2x champ status.

    He won't call himself a 3x champ after he regains the belts AJ inherited off him out of the ring.

    In Fury's words all these titles and belts really don't mean anything. They lose value more year by year.
     
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  5. BELLERS

    BELLERS Active Member Full Member

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    He was Olympic champion, the records show that.
    Wilder drew with Fury 1st time, the records show that too.
    There are loads of fights which are scored 'differently', shall we say.
     
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  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo VIP Member Full Member

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    i didnt see the fights. but it sounds like you scored different than the judges. and seeing as its aj at the top of the hw heap, and not savon or cammarelle, whos judging should i consider more reliable?
     
  7. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    they always rob my people
     
  8. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Then watch the fights and tell me how the judges could have scored the Savon fight for AJ.
    Camarrelle was a closer fight but still a clear win for the Italian.

    And your argument is bollocks. Camarrelle didn't wanna turn pro and neither did Savon. Camarrelle is very happy being a police officer in Italy and never had interest turning pro.
     
  9. bandeedo

    bandeedo VIP Member Full Member

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    its not really important to me. maybe the judges were prophets, they knew aj would one day be king and those other 2 just footnotes in his story. what are the chances?
     
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  10. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, in boxing am or pro you have only one option clearly win: to STOP guy. Nothing else.
    Watch Seul olympic match: Roy Jones Jr vs Park Si-Hun.

    You will get why boxing ( both pro and ams ) will lost prestige and MMA will take it's place as mainstream combat sport for youth.
    Boxing already had lost a lot from his prestige if compare with MMA, MT, kickboxing.
     
  11. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    As others have already stated: Because he is.

    Despite what you feel or believe actually happened, the judges there determine who wins.

    Despite what you feel or believe about who won, the judges there determined who win.

    Despite all the shuffling of words you can accomplish, history says AJ is an Olympic champion.

    Fight it, run from it, reality is reality and a cruel mistress.
     
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  12. shavers

    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He win the gold medal, stop hating..
     
  13. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why you think that A.J is so important that someone definitely should fight it, run from it or otherwise to feel scared?

    A.J get his hometown medal, congratulations.
    Park Si Hun too had get his hometown gold medal like A.J and on paper history says that RJJ had lost vs him.

    No one needs nor fight with it nor run from boxing reality: there are A side and away corner guys.
    Boxing is dying, customers are happy.
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I don't recall encountering anyone who thought AJ beat Savon and the vast majority had Cammarelle beating him too

    Even the British press called out the robbery

    'They let a platoon of British squaddies into the unoccupied posh seats to watch their country’s super-heavyweight prospect Anthony Joshua start his Olympic journey and the ludicrous Games judging system did not disappoint them.

    Joshua was outboxed and outclassed by Cuba’s Erislandy Savon but was given the decision 17-16 even though he was the winner of only two of the 30 round scores accumulated by the 10 judges.

    The format by which the scores with the widest margin were removed from the reckoning, further diluted by a calculation of averages, robbed the nephew of all-time Cuban Olympic great Felix Savon of an impressive and comfortable victory.



    Even the fiercely partisan home crowd seemed to sense the injustice. The deafening roar which greeted the much-hyped Joshua into the ring had dwindled to a relieved and faintly embarrassed cheer by the time the result was announced.

    This travesty kept Joshua on course to untold fortunes — albeit unsteadily — and Team GB’s 100 per cent record in this tournament thus far intact. But it did so at a cost to the British reputation for fair play.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/o...thony-Joshua-beats-Erislandy-Savon-17-16.html


    'Anthony Joshua (Great Britain) def. Erislandy Savon (Cuba), 17-16: It was a great fight, surpassing expectations. The crowd was thunderous, shaking the camera as Joshua was introduced. But quite frankly, I don't think that I saw anyone who believed Joshua deserved the win in this fight. Let's be really clear here: It's not that Anthony Joshua fought poorly or was blown out. That is not the case. It's simply that there were two men in the fight, and Joshua was the second-best of them. Ben Dirs of BBC said this after the fight on Twitter:

    "The crowd love it - most of them anyway, they are a few boos - but Anthony Joshua was very lucky to win that won, and I think he knows it. Everyone in the press seats knows it as well - lots of raised eyebrows and crooked smiles."
     
  15. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

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    Roy the silver medallist would fiercely disagree.