Henry Cooper, His Twin, and the X Factor

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I'm curious about the Forum's theories explaining why Henry Cooper created the career he did in boxing, while his genetically identical brother was less successful at the same sport.
     
  2. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Simply not as talented as 'Enery.
     
  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    In what way, and why? That's the odd bit -- they're the same man, physically.
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    George was actually just as good as Henry, but they tossed a coin to see who'd be the bigger name.
    George lost, so, in effect he actually lost his fights and wasn't as good..on purpose.!
    Fact.
     
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  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Henry actually never lost to Ali. They did a last minute substitution between rounds both times. The switch was edited out during the time when Dundee ripped Ali's glove.
     
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  6. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I knew it!!
    I've been saying for years that Henry didn't really look the same in there. Idk, something about his hair didn't look as it normally did.
    Thank you CT, all these years I thought I was imagining it :borra2:
     
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  7. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    You weren't crazy, Fergy. It was all real. All of it. Never believe otherwise.
     
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  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    The best answer I can give is - they were two different people
     
  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Henry's own explanation, from what I remember, is that his brother's skin was even more fragile than Henry's. Which you wouldn't expect, given their shared biology.
     
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  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Same with Travis Simms and Tarvis Simms. Identical twins. Both boxers. Travis became a WBA Super Welterweight champ. His brother was a journeyman. Travis became an elected state representative. Tarvis became a criminal.

    They got into a fight with each other once and police had to be called.

    One twin seemed to get all the talent, and the other seemed to be a complete mess.

    Very weird.

    https://www.ringtv.com/592701-travis-simms-contender-state-politics/

    https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5058305
     
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  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Started out as the same one, though.
     
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  12. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I'm imagining the scene at dinner when they're both rolling on the ground punching each other.

    "Honey, hit him with the fire poker! He's Tarvis!"

    "Don't listen to him, dear! I'm your husband. *He's* Tarvis! Hit him!"
     
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  13. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Thank you and thank God!