Usyk coming in at 230 lbs will be a mistake

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  1. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If people had to be qualified to pay for ppvs and tickets these qualified ppl had to change their profession.

    People like you are thinking that these " superior " ppl are essential services providers?
    They are entertainment and amusement industry. No clients no money.
     
  2. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have the same concerns but I have complete faith that Usyk and his team know what they're doing.
    The public workout was just Usyk ****ing about and I wouldn't really have any takeaways from the Public workout.
    We've seen the first sneak peak of Usyk's current physique today, he looks thicker and powerful around the shoulders, maybe he's sacrificing some handspeed in favor of power, he might genuinely be going for the knockout and I believe that tactic would really surprise AJ, if Joshua comes in at 238-242 he might not have the power to stop Usyk, even if he lands clean and if Usyk comes in with more power and if he maintains is fantastic accuracy, we might be looking at a late rd stoppage for Usyk.

    I've timestamped to the point where we see Usyk's body:
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  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, is Usyk going to make the fight coming at AJ to get inside and land or stay at range and counter punch? Looking at the advantages Joshua has height, reach, strength and power and maybe a better jab especially at heavyweight this is an up hill battle for Usyk.
     
  4. MarvelousMarvinGolovkin

    MarvelousMarvinGolovkin Kownackis belly button lint Full Member

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    LOL Usyk won't set a "blistering pace" in the first 6 rounds
     
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  5. MarvelousMarvinGolovkin

    MarvelousMarvinGolovkin Kownackis belly button lint Full Member

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    He's fought plenty people taller than him, Joe Joyce is one example
     
  6. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Agreed. Usyk is hoping AJ's gasses out before then.
     
  7. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The way I look at it is it's more based on extrapolating all of Usyk's past successes; generally elite fighters don't suddenly do very well by changing their fundamental approach and style - certainly not radically.

    On the flip-side, you are right that Usyk and his team are obviously best-placed to work out a gameplan; I just hope that they haven't read too much into the Chisora fight and changed approach too much - given AJ fights nothing like Chisora.
     
  8. The Townsend

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    You still failed to get the one ring off Frodo though.
     
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  9. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :risas3::risas3::risas3:

    Well technically, I did at the end, bit it clean off, finger n aw! But then I couldn't keep ma balance...
     
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  10. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    That tactic worked against an uninspired Ruiz. Usyk is a whole other animal. He won't allow AJ to move and work when AJ wants. Usyk, if anything, will shoot from wierd angles and dip to the side, never allowing AJ to get set. If Usyk is allowed to move, AJ is done. The strategy you suggest does just that. Remember, the guys that made Usyk uncomfortable jammed him up, pressured him and moved him to the ropes.
     
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  11. Bumnard_Hopkins

    Bumnard_Hopkins Burger King banned Full Member

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    When did Big Josh ever pressure a fighter? This strategy might tire him out prematurely.
     
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  12. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If AJ comes into the ring with the same track shoes he used in the Ruiz rematch he will win this.
     
  13. Braindamage

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    Not saying Joshua needs to pressure him in the sense of bull rushing him. Just pointing out that the times Usyk was uncomfortable was when he was pressured and forced back. Most of the other times Usyk looked great. The strategy of AJ trying to box and move with the better boxer, mover is all wrong IMO. I think AJ needs to hold his ground, punch with Usyk and keep Usyk in range by effectively cutting off the ring. Which may expend alot of energy. Now, if AJ's stamina holds up, Usyk may be in trouble. Personally, I think AJ's stamina will falter.
     
  14. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree whole heartedly with this. The Usyk of the WSB was in a different league to everyone he fought and was an absolute, non stop punching, utterly fearless menace and unfortunately I haven't seen anything like that same fighter up at HW.

    If we had, I think he could pressure AJ to the point of exhaustion by the halfway mark and likely get the TKO.

    I think the AJ that beat Pulev though is the perfect foil for a bulked up, slower and past best Usyk which unfortunately I think he is. I actually see AJ countering Usyk with a stunning punch and going in for the finish in clinical fashion between rounds 6-9.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Usyk is up on the cards at this point and looking pretty good but, unless AJ gets incredibly careless, I don't see Usyk connecting often or hard enough to truly discourage AJ's offensive forages.
     
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  15. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I actually thought Ward looked the stronger, especially in the rematch and Froch was taken aback by Wards strength as he couldn't impose himself on Ward or bully him like he did with previous opponents and Froch was a big, solid SMW who trained like an absolute machine.