POLL: Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk Vs. Anthony Oluwafemi Olaseni Joshua

Let's just hope it's not Klitschko versus Haye again .. The best CW versus the one of the best heavyweights… Where said cruiserweight absolutely shits his pants and stinks the joint out after two years of telling everybody he was the second coming LOL.. I can't see Usyk doing a Haye though… I want to pick Usyk as he is clearly the master boxer of the two but something tells me he's just not that effective at heavyweight.. not everybody is roided up Holyfield.. I think Joshua will probably be just too strong .. he's a 6'7 270lb roided up SHW.. he's better than Joyce

 

Of course It isn't. If someone have doubts, might watch Witherspoon vs Usyk fight.
Yeah, there might be opinions: it's HW ( casual mantra ).
Naw, Witherspoon was short notice late replacement, over the hill uncle.
Yeah, Usyk had finished him but I think It was worst Usyk's fight I had saw.

 

I picked AJ by decision, honestly think it could be any of those.

 

I can see Usyk outboxes him 7-5 or 8-4 and we'll see how judges respond if that's the case. That's if Usyk doesn't get taken out early. If the 1st 6 rounds go 3-3, then Usyk starts to take over and gets 4 or 5 out of the last 6. Interesting fight David vs Goliath.

 

Joshua by KO/TKO. If Usyk somehow manage to wins i will be very surprise, and Joshua will definitely be not as good as i thought he is.
I'm saying this by being a fan of both of this guys. But Usyk is long gone beyond his prime.
His last true prime was like 3,5 years ago against Gassiev.
He had some injuries that accelerate the obviously decline and moving to the heavies and adding extra weight accelerating the process even more, and on top of that he had more injuries because of it, which accelerate it even further.

He ain't the same fighter he was. He doesn't have the energy for the ridiculous high pace he usually set, his reflexes are shot to ***** compare to what they was before, his footwork is slower, and his handspeed is way slower compare to what they was. And finally his explosiveness is nowhere to be found.
And i'm claiming this from long time now. But Chisora fight has truly confirmed this.
And some people on here says oh but he is just 34. Yeah this is advance age in any sport, especially in boxing.
Yeah some people like Floyd or Klitschko's could be(or close to it) be in their prime till 37 or so, but they are absolutely exceptional and that doesn't mean everyone is going to be like them. They are actually a exception to the rule, not the standard.
And yeah there is a lot of people doing great after their 30+, esp. with the modern stuffs, but again not everyone is like that.
And by the time you hit 33-34 the decline is quite, quite obvious.
For Usyk that thing to happen before that, as i've said a lot of stuffs like all the injuries he suffer, the move to the heavy contributed heavily.
That was a terrible move, and absolutely did not paid off, and on top of that, he had just 2 matches(Joshua will be the third), in the 3 year period he decided to move to the HW, which just speaks for itself.
Should have stayed at the CW and break all the records in there and set such that no one could even dream of catching.
If you going to move to HW, if you are not struggling with the weight(as he was not), you gotta do it early, and before your 25-26 years.
After that is a huge risk, that in most cases won't paid off.

 

I agree with you, AJ will KO Usyk.

However, Usyk's move to heavyweight is not a mistake. I'm sure he is paid at least 5 million dollars for AJ fight. So, we can't say it's a mistake.

He will probably retire after he loses to Joshua.

 

Do you really think that in WBSS 2 etc he had beat everyone?
Just because it is Usyk?
For over the hill guy to fight in CW is far more difficult than in HW division with proper mathcmaking.

You might dream here: LOL, Usyk had beat Gassiev who had beat Dorticos.
Therefore over the hill out of prime Usyk had beated up Dorticos in WBSS2?
I don't think so. Dorticos isn't Chisora and usually does have very good gas tank in the end of fight.
If he had Dorticos not Witherspoon in the ring or Spong not Withersppon in this fight, he had been finished in distance, plain and simple here.
He looked awful, sorry.
Let's take next possible opponent: the same Briedis ( according Usyk hardcore fans he so easily had won, wuala ) : he most likely even then didn't had get fair cards ( barely scrapped win if talking really ) if he wasn't with more impactful promoters than Briedis then had.
WBSS2 era had Briedis now under germans and I can't imagine how these easy songs might look here.
K-2 promotion is impactful but sorry, they even aren't Frank or Kalle & Co, not alone MTK or Eddie or bunch with top US promoters.

Briedis might had turned Usyk into Glowacki II and vuala, reality arrives. ( Glowacki had deserved this IRL very soft lesson long ago and still )
Maybe he might had decided to octopus Usyk and to do stuff like Okolie vs Askin or even worse.
Maybe ha even had KOed him if he instead of Dorticos had Usyk from Chisora fight in the ring. Pretty real chance btw.
Okolie? Okolie will KO Usyk or turn into Askin II.
I'm not sure that current Usyk might beat even Lerena, not alone Makabu here.

Smaller purses than in HW division.
Yeah, in euro CW pays really better than in US, in US this is heavily overlooked division, even Cunningham, Tabiti ( despite under MVP ), Dorticos had to seek their luck in europe, even in Russia.
There still are factors that Germany doesn't have Huck as main CW sales train and U.K: Bellew is not active, Haye moved up and now both are retired.
Okolie is not yet developed into huge tickets/ ppvs seller.

Who there remains: Cieslak? They even had not get Briedis fight, he does have interesting managers, IBF had no clue how to deal with his promoters and their dreams. IBF had multiple times gave them extra chance by prolonging deadlines terms. Until it was too much.
They also had dragged Cieslak to fight vs Makabu in Zaire, imagine how much money he might generate in real life?
Not promoters talks in social media ( noise ).

Next boxers in this division, who might generate enough money for Usyk?

Maybe Usyk might perform well at HW with proper matchamaking and why not.
The same Whyte and Chisora might be interesting for Dorticos, Briedis I think. They had stopped these both HW boxers if they had fought vs them in 2020 th. Pulev version from A.J fight too.

While the likes like A.J, Parker, Fury? At first they are more mobile, then bunch with other elements here to bear in mind.

 

I'm not sure.
A.J gas tank is suspect and chin is proven suspect ( I don't mean here sparring stories click baits ).
While he might have very good gas tank.
It is impossible to predict.

A.J might A) octopus Usyk and get decision win and why not?
B) to keep Usyk at range ( he does have reach and height advantage and is enough mobile here, it isn't Whyte or Chisora here ) by using high long extended dynamic guard : again WHY not? He does have tools for this.

A.J win on points is relatively possible and why not?

To bet on A.J money, I fear: chin suspect, gas tank unpredictable.
Otherwise I had placed bet on A.J to win this one.
To bet real money on Usyk, sorry no.

 

If AJ cannot land clean and make Usyk think early on, this could be a long night for Joshua. I slightly lean towards him, but if it gets past round 6 or 7 and Usyk is in the fight, I can see him taking over down the stretch and winning an 8-4 or 7-5 points win.

Certainly this is a difficult fight. Usyk doesn't know the feeling of losing. Joshua does. Will Joshua's confidence take a hit if this one goes long?

 

They probably injected AJ with latest technology steroid formula. His neck is absurdly thick and his face is swollen, looks weird. Because they will not let AJ lose this match.

AJ is probably at Superman level at the moment, thanks to the super-human steroids. He will not gas, and he will be super endurable to the strongest punches on Earth.

 

But it's not all about money at the end of the day, right ? And it's not like the guy was fighting for free at CW. And with all the belts he would have get more and more. And just like i said a lot of his injury was due to trying to get bigger for the HW.
And i doubt that he would have been so inactive at CW.
Surrix, bro you are a troll, and i'm not going on that road again with you. We had that discussion long ago.
You are a delusional if you think anyone at the CW division is even as closer as danger, as Joshua is. As well as nowhere there was even remotely close to Usyk. The closest was Gassiev, and he get schooled and lost 0-12 against Usyk, so that's the facts !!! You can take it as you like. Your boy Briedis as well as other champions clearly lost to Usyk, in their f***** hometowns !!!

 

No you are a troll if you dream that Usyk version from Chisora fight might beat Okolie.
Do not dream about this nonsense cos you are a troll nothing more.

Of course, I agree that boxers like Gassiev and Briedis better had picked up other career rather than pro boxing.
In pro boxing best is to be from US, Mexico or U.K, in worst case from Germany.

More fanbase, better experts like you in forum here calling others as trolls.

Damn, I really wish at least to see how Usyk might beat Okolie. Because Okolie is better than Usyk.
Ofc these nobodies for you like Gassiev and Briedis did not had deserved again to fight with PILLOW FIST GENUISSE USYK.
Pro boxing is business, K-2 here are small thing, sorry my TROLL DREAMER.

A.J will beat Usyk. UD, MD, KO, TKO or DQ.

And calm down with your shi*********** = Usyk is not better than Gassiev or Briedis, he just then was in prime.

Go to the hell with K-2 product Usyk and his insane superiority.
Chisora and even Witherspoon had proved how pillow fisted Usyk is.

If Usyk will win, A.J total glass chin will be confirmed.

 

Okey, pro boxing is business, remember, Klits era and K-2 impact is history.
Even MTK not only Frank today does have more impact in real life.

What from this my kid?
Usyk still can't sell enough tickets in his f******** Kiev therefore fights had happened in Germany, Poland, Latvia, Russia.

So please die with your boy Usyk pillow fisted hero.

Your boy is in eddie garden now, time to pay for a lesson and dreams.
Usyk will lost fight vs Eddie even if he will KO A.J.
U don't know how this business does work.

Usyk too does not know therefore he had to fight in so called backyards : tool to brag about INABILITY TO SELL IN KIEV.
LOL.

 

Get once this reality: US and U.K business does not needs Usyk and your f*** boy is not enough cool even to sell enough in Kiev.
Therefore he traveled around the world and later K-2 were happy: our boy was not big seller in Ukraine, therefore he traveled around the world.
In f******* backyards for $$$$$$$$$ paychecks.

 

Don’t think Usyk hears the 8th round bell, don’t get me wrong I want him to win but think he’ll get starched pretty easy unfortunately. The weigh in is when he probably realises.