How good was Post-Prison Tyson?

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  1. MoneyMay1

    MoneyMay1 Member Full Member

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    How would rank Tyson's career post-prison? Let's stick with the years of 1995-2000. Those are his prime years after his prison stint before he was clearly on the decline vs. Lennox Lewis. Tyson was clearly a level below Holyfield. It's also likely that Lewis was a step above him too. I have commonly seen posts on this forum that ranks Tyson #3 in that era.

    IMO, Tyson was 2 levels below his 80's peak during the Holyfield fights. He seemed to move slower. His power wasn't as punishing as before. His head movement that defined him in the 80's completely disappeared. He was a stationary fighter with a powerful right hand looking for knockouts. That made him vulnerable to Holyfield's all-around game. Any fighter with a chin had a solid shot at defeating Tyson. At the same time, I still think that version of Tyson still beats Spinks and Holmes and wins the title in the 80's. He would beat every fighter before Buster Douglas.
     
  2. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well.
    Tyson's real prime was till 1988 th ( including ) and that's all.
    Mike was very talented, naturally gifted and diligent, damn hardworking athlete.
    Then with him had happened thing not rare for actors, musicians, boxers. He was on TV, well known and had a lot $$$$.

    Such ppl does get huge attention, a lot of friends and " friends ". Partying, Yes man mentality ppl around.
    He changed his team, because he paid really well, I think he had Yes Sir attitude ppl around him. Why to conflict with mike who is paying best $ ? Yes, Sir!
    Decline already had started long before prison.

    The same reason why Morrison had declined: popular, nice looking with $$$$$$ and he is on TV?
    Girls and friends, " friends " around.
    Actors and musicians too does have such obstacles.
     
  3. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    Alright. For a guy whose prime was 88 to do as well as he did for over another decade giving zero ****s is impressive in a sad way.
     
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  4. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Main difference was all that work ethic was gone, no guidance, the choice was up to
    him. In my opinion Tony Tucker or Bone crusher Smith would have a 50/50 chance.
     
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  5. Suh4il

    Suh4il New Member Full Member

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    Mike Tyson my g was in pen and he came out ruthless, vicious, mean, lean, manmade, full of pure jelly and peanut butter. Why peanut butter I hear you say? Man likes his condiments. But yeah Jinn's back. Who tf are they? Lennox was a conqueror. Sure. Holyfield was on Shukr deliveries. Botha? Both ahh. Golota? Go later turned to go lota. Danny Williams I hear you ask? Real G. But did he even want to punch Mikey when he was his biggest supporter?
     
  6. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Uh, I guess? :jump1:

    Post-prison Mike was a bizarrely far more cautious and overall less effective fighter who wasn't quite in the running with 92-93 Bowe, Holyfield, or Steward-era Lewis. But he was more than good enough to hold a couple of alphabet titles, and always very dangerous.
     
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  7. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    I'd say he was about 70% his best.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Maybe one grade above Tua.
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    A very good contender type.
     
  10. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A good fighter but certainly not the top dog anymore.
     
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  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He was a unified champion during that time and better than most champions in history.
     
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Mike Tyson was champion from 1988-1990. After that, he was a belt-holder.
     
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Nice goal post shift.
     
  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    There hasn't been a goal-post shift.

    This is usually the point in the conversation where you wig out and start acting like your boyfriend felt you up in an unwelcome way at a drive-in. Don't do that. You're two posts in and you're already making stuff and that will remain apparent to me.
     
  15. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson of mid 90s was still very fast and explosive. He trained seriously at that time and wasn't drug-addicted.

    I'd say he was still great puncher with speed and explosiveness on his side, but his stamina was clearly not the same and his skills didn't look as good as in the 80s. Still, his destruction of Bruno was impressive.

    By the early 2000s, Mike Tyson was much slower, less interested, cocaine-addicted shot fighter with 3-round stamina.
     
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