Usyk lack of power will DOOM him at heavyweight.

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    This 6'5½'' 250-260lbs behemoth possesses huge power

    That's Mihai Nistor he flattens at the start of the video ie. the guy who stopped AJ

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    But oddly enough Usyk stopped one of the guys in the WSB (Eric Brechlin) who lasted the full distance against him, and also lasted the distance against the 6'6'' 225-235lb Hrgovic in the WSB and in another amateur tournament, and he also lost on points to AJ in the European championships, and to Cuban giant Robert Alfonso.


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    Usyk also stopped this 260-270lb + behemoth in the WSB

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    Modugno lasted into the 4th in the WSB against the 6'6'' 240lb Joe Joyce only losing that one on a cut eye, which AFAIA is the only other time he's been stopped.

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  2. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Byrd got beat by power punchers...Wlad, Ibuebuchi, and I thought Golota beat him....these are all big strong guys.

    You can also add Vitali bc he wins easily at 100%.

    Usyk won't have such an easy time at the current top of the division, he won't be hurting guys much bc the heavyweights take better punches and will have reach on him.

    There's also a few guys coming up that are great boxer/ devastating punchers....that would flatten him by 2 years time.
     
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  3. AlotOfSnap

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    Lol! And Chris Byrd’s punches weren’t hard enough to keep iron chinned Tua who had nuclear power honest right?

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    How about Holyfield?

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    Two guys with power and chins that were SOMEHOW beaten by a 210lb southpaw slickster with “Feather Duster punches” :wanker

    Keep in mind Usyk is more skilled (especially offensively) and hits harder than Byrd. He’ll have enough, more than enough to sting guys like Joshua and Wilder who quite frankly aren’t exactly Vitali Klitschko or Tua in the chin department.
     
  4. MrTombourineMan

    MrTombourineMan Торрейра хорошо. Full Member

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    You're confusing lack of KO power with having pillows for fists. Usyk has enough pop and throws more than enough volume to keep him from being rushed, that sets the platform for his skills to do the talking.

    Power aside, who at HW do you believe even has the necessary footwork to maneuver themselves into a position where they can let their hands go and actually land something? The only good pressure fighter there is Povetkin and he's already on the decline, not to mention possesses less reach than Usyk. Joshua and Parker's footwork is slow and pretty mediocre, Wilder's is quicker but utterly clueless at times.
     
  5. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His skills are ATG level but I just have to see him vs someone like Whyte, Parker, or Ortiz before I can say he could beat Joshua and Wilder.. Whyte is 6’4 and about 240 and Ortiz 6’3 250 while Usyk is 6’2 will probable be 220.. He’s he will box circles around these guys but what happens when he get caught with a HW punch is what I wanna see.. Joshua will fight him like he did Parker.. can Usyk fight him coming forward for 12 rds idk.. Wilder is very unorthodox but he is nowhere near as slow as Gassiev and he’s 6’6.. Yea Usyk can box circles around him but will that in and out style work for 12 rds against someone who has shown that all he need to catch you once with the right hand to change the fight idk.. Either way I wanna see and I want get in to bashing either guy because AJ and DW have major weaknesses..
     
  6. HerolGee

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    2slyk just won a tournie of the hw division in reality, just a subunit of it.

    what have the others at hw done?
     
  7. SnatchBox

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    Usyk-Joyce was at Super heavyweight in those AIBA closer to pro boxing.
     
  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Absolute bollocks. OP is not a boxing fan and does not understand the sport. The point of "boxing" as opposed to a barroom fight, is to hit and not be hit, which Usyk does, as did Ali, Willie Pep. Pernell Whitiker, Ray Leonard, etc. And he does it on that level.

    We don't know how hard Usyk hits, and never will, because he uses movement to confound his opponents rather than setting down on his punches. We we can say is that he has beaten Briedis and Medzhidov in pro-style fights, and not a lot of heavies are going to hit that much harder than those two, certainly not Deontay Wilder, who struggles with guys stopped by Demetrice King and Ashanti Jordan.

    Usyk is coming, and if he gets Wilder in the ring, he will be a champ. Joshua is a tougher fight, but by no means the bridge too far.

    Deal.
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yep, no doubt, just like it did in Ali and Holyfield. They were doomed I tell you, DOOMED.o_O
     
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  10. It's Ovah

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    Windmills has a long reach but he has no idea how to use it. He's like a HW Paul Williams; all the height and reach in the world, but still lets guys bang it out in his wheelhouse. His KO power is the only thing that needs to give Usyk pause, but even then I don't see how Wilder can hope to land on a guy like Usyk to the extent that he can force a KO. For my money he'd be like a lamb to the slaughter.
     
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  11. The Akbar One

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    Yup, you don't think Joyce will be dangerous for Usyk in a year or two though? Usyk is clearly more skilled, but at heavyweight, power can trump skill. Joyce will, likely be skilled enough by then to be dangerous.
     
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  12. BirdieNumNum

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    Really Doomed! @Aydamn :lol:
     
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  13. BirdieNumNum

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    :deal:
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Wlad passed his CW Level test against Haye

    Vitali passed his CW Level test against Adamek

    Fury passed his CW Level test against Cunningham but he had to haul his ass off the canvas, was taken to hell and back, and still to this day says it was his hardest fight

    “Believe it or not, this is going to sound strange, Cunningham was the hardest fight I ever did have in my whole career, amateur or professional.

    “The reason being he was very slippery, I couldn’t pin him down. He was light on his feet, weighing 208lbs, he was CW Level and he stepped up into HW Level.

    “He was a slick, talented boxer and I tried to walk him down, use my size and power, but he was just outboxing me.

    “What I’m good at – boxing, moving, slipping and sliding – I couldn’t do against Steve Cunningham because he was quicker than me.

    “It was like he was a better boxer all round than me, and he’d knocked me over even though he was a light puncher.

    Diamond Boy Charr failed his CW Level test against Briedis

    Valuev failed his CW Level test against Haye

    Arreola failed his CW Level test against Adamek

    Povetkin struggled badly when he made the step up to CW Level against Huck and Michael ''The Bounty'' Hunter

    Bakole, Kuzmin, and Ustinov all failed their CW Level tests against Hunter

    Chisora failed his CW Level tests against Haye and Usyk

    Buster Douglas, Bowe (second fight when the Real Deal showed up) many other HWs failed their CW Level tests against Holyfield

    Lots of top HWs have failed their CW Level tests against Gassiev in the gym

    And now AJ failed his first CW Level test against The Usyk God

    That big bum useless dosser The Tuscaloser is still to this day the only one who is running like a thief in the night from his day of reckoning with CW Level.


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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    CW Level>> HW Level :deal: