Fight market in the Ukraine?

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  1. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I was just wondering why Usyk has to fight pretty much everyone in their backyard. Loma has pretty much all his fights in the U.S. now. Is there not much of a market for a big fight in Kiev?
     
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  2. BirdieNumNum

    BirdieNumNum New Member banned Full Member

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    Ukraine consistently produce top boxers. But it's a very poor country, one of the poorest in Europe, with a war going on in the East.
    There hardly any pro boxing shows, no big promoters. There's no pro boxing infrastructure.

    It's amazing the success of Ukraine considering there's no pro shows, no big promoters, no top facilitties. I recall in the last years of the World Series of Boxing, despite being one of the top teams. Ukraine didn't even have the money to fund a team for it!

    Ukraine's success is down to being tough, hard people with strong discipline, hard work and good genes/DNA. They don't make any excuses for their lack of opportunities/facilities/promoters like other countries do, their success is down to hard work and having high standards.

    Wladimir only fought there once in his entire career, Vasily has never fought there as a pro. Usyk hasn't in years. I wouldn't expect the situation to change anytime soon.
     
  3. pernellaaron

    pernellaaron Active Member Full Member

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    What is his fan base like in Germany? Obviously that is where the Klitschko brothers had much of their success, seems a logical home field for him
     
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  4. Themessiah

    Themessiah El Jefe Full Member

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    Klitschkos were popular in Germany because they trained and fought there and became fluent in German. I don't think Usyk has a big fanbase in Germany
     
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  5. pepsiclassic

    pepsiclassic Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk was asked a question about Crimea and he said it belongs to god, and media took it as him avoiding so he wasn't super supported for the fight like he should be. he still got a lot of support but it wasn't talked about as much. however once he won it's been over media all day
     
  6. BirdieNumNum

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    I don't know why Canadian promoters don't sign more Ukrainian fighters, apparently there is an estimated 1.3 million persons of full or partial Ukrainian origin residing in Canada
     
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  7. kirk

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    Good question.

    Awesome answer, thank you.
     
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  8. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Does Usyk still live and train in Ukraine? I get the impression from Instagram videos that Loma spends most of his time in the US (this may just be for fight camps), while Usyk seems to still be primarily based in the Ukraine.
     
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  9. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    So they wanted him to specify that it belonged to Ukraine instead of Russia? Do some people in Ukraine actually support Russia over the Ukraine when it comes to Crimea? Sorry these are probably stupid questions, but I’ve gotten disillusioned with politics, so I don’t watch the news much anymore.
     
  10. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There is a large Russian population in Ukraine for a lot of historical reasons, when the Soviet Union broke up they were left stranded in a lot of ways.

    This was the justification for Russia taking Crimea.

    Usyk and Loma, particularly Loma, seem to have Russian tendencies to me? I can't really tell but just how they speak, etc.
     
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  11. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Yeah, I’m sure they have to walk a fine line then to not make a sizeable portion of the country mad based on what they say. I’m a big fan of Ukrainian boxers, especially Loma, Usyk, Gvozdyk, and the Klitschko brothers, but I really don’t know much about the country itself. I should definitely try to study up on it some more.
     
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  13. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk has indicated that he wants the rematch in the Ukraine. I wonder how that will work out.
     
  14. bubbrubb

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    stack the card with Loma and Gvodyzk and you got a mega fight in Kyiv the whole world will watch
     
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