Let's give Joshua credit and finally appreciate him

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  1. N17

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    I'm sorry, I'm so so sorry.

    Long weekend and Tottenham were hammered yesterday.

    :oops:
     
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  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're acting like Wilder didn't almost get stopped by Luis Ortiz, had a rough night with Duhaupas and Szpilka and didn't get put on bambi legs by a left hook from Eric Molina of all people. Joshua isn't all that but if him and Wilder fought, Joshua would probably land first. Usyk would also school Wilder... badly... as in 12-0. Wilder wins no rounds and lands almost nothing.
     
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  3. N17

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    Errrr It's a bit of a standing joke that I picked Wilder twice against Fury, I lost an avatar bet picking Wilder to beat Fury.

    I'm picking him a third time too.. much to the amusement of many posters on here LOL


    So this idea that I am up Furys backside is just so wrong, I think you have me confused with somebody else.


    Yet I'd pick Fury to batter AJ, so explain that to me?


    Am I a Wilder fan? Nope, far from it.. he gets enough stick off me also.


    I don't know how old you are but I don't view Boxing like Football, I'm not a supporter who supports a fighter regardless and is blinkered by blind support.

    I'll pick a fighter in a fight then pick against him in another, is that's what confusing you?



    Or Are you still upset your boy AJ got slapped silly again? All those Fury and Wilder fans laughing at AJ, mocking AJ.. and laughing at people like you who want to credit AJ for getting beaten up again?
     
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  4. N17

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    :lol:
     
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  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did i say this ? I say Klitschko lost the fight, not that Fury won it. It was Klitschko not being mentally there, and not motivated enough, as well as just not doing the right things.
    It was nothing alike compare to Joshua fight.
    I would have give Fury full credit if he was actually showing to fight his obligation in the rematch, a fight he owed. But the guy run scared into retirement, and make all the b.c. excuses. He also popped dirty and i'm sorry that i don't give such a coward credit.

    And what did AJ do ? He was ready for the rematch, but Klitschko retired. AJ then goes to Unify against Parker, and fight the best, while Fury was eating burgers after burgers.
     
  6. Nopporn

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    I'm sorry. I underestimated your boy. I never thought that Usyk will fight in the H.W. Division as great as he did in the Cruizerweight Division. He proved me wrong by beating AJ. convincingly. Congratulations to him and his team. Hope that Usyk can do the same as Holyfield did in the past in this biggest division.
     
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  7. lordlosh

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    Again i'm not going through your post search to know for who you have better, neither did i care, neither that is important. It's quite obvious from your post, where you are going, and you are not blinding anyone.
    And i have always said that i got no problem with people having x or y guy winning or be better then x or y guy.
    I got no problem with you having Fury or Wilder huge favorite/winning against Joshua/Usyk or else.
    This thread wasn't about this. It wasn't about Fury or Wilder, before you show up and make all the off topic discussion, which wasn't needed.

    As far as how old i'm, 32 years old.

    As far as my boy, i have never hidden that i like AJ, but being a huge fan of him, no i'm not. And i have always see his weakness and his flaws. But still he is heavily underrated here, and getting tons of bash, yet he is the absolutely best(not talking about skills) in the division in terms of fighting the very best available opponents.

    As far as who i'm a fan of i was a fan of both Klitschko's, as well on Povetkin, and Usyk from his amateur days, till now.
    And i still picked AJ to win, because i believed that Usyk is well past his prime(i still believe he is past his prime), but he showed us that he is still miles ahead in terms of skills compare to the rest.
    And still i always try to be unbiased. And i always bash or praise when i believe someone is doing right/wrong.

    But accepting posts for Wilder and Fury, and blaming Joshua for not fighting them, it's absolutely impossible, simple because following the events it's quite obvious who ducked who and who ******* up.
     
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    Errrr that's exactly the point, you have made claims I am some sort of Fury fanboy when the reality is I've picked Wilder 3 times to beat him.. I don't know what to tell you.

    Hardly the actions of a fanboy now is it?

    So you say I'm a Fury fanboy or at least imply it and then deny your a AJ fanboy (you just like him) even though you're on here making threads and post about how we should credit AJ for losing in embarrassing circumstances AGAIN.

    Errrr OK, you're more confused than Scooby Doo.
     
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  9. ShovelHook

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    Or Fury outboxed him and exploited the long-established weakness in Wlad's hesitancy to engage when he's not going first in an exchange? Fury figured him out, plain and simple. It wasn't Wlad beating himself, he always had the same problems, it was Fury taking away all his strengths and exposing his weaknesses.
    You also don't know bipolar disorder if you think he was running scared lol, he was off his rocker, not fit to be fighting in that state.
    Joshua only made Wlad look better by being such a stiff robot himself, he was just the younger stiff robot of the two.
     
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  10. ShovelHook

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    Wilder isn't all that, I agree, neither is AJ. Both have meh chins but I know who has the elite speed and power of the two. AJ is too easy to find with a nice straight to survive too long. Ortiz also was put down by Wilder before he even hurt him, AJ in the same situation doesn't survive imo.
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

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    All that power and speed and was still caught by Ortiz at will and went life and death with a journeyman. Not good for Wilder. Yes Joshua got caught by Ruiz but Ruiz got up off the canvas and immediately exchanged with Joshua beforedoing that. Wilder wouldn't do that, he'd get finished off.

    Maybe if Wilder didn't duck him this argument would be put to rest.
     
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  12. ShovelHook

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    "Caught at will" yet he pulled through, he has way more heart than AJ at the very least. Joshua didn't only get caught by Ruiz, he's been on Bambi legs in five fights now and more than once in some of those. Even Wilder hasn't been rocked that often and he's pretty crap. Wilder also would pull through, that's something he's shown he's capable of unlike AJ who only managed it against a truly passive Klitschko who just gifted him a chance to claw the fight back.
    Wilder will do absolutely anything to try to save that W, did you see any of that grit by Joshua against Usyk? He fought like a beaten man in those last rounds, couldn't muster anything.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

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    Yeah more heart is cool but it isn't going to matter as he gets battered on the ropes by Joshua. It would be a TKO. A funny one too. Wilder could catch him but Joshua would probably catch him first. Like Ortiz did

    And Andy Ruiz is better than Molina. Molina is a journeyman. Its pretty sad. Ruiz is at least a fringe contender. Like i said had Wilder not ducked this would be settled
     
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  14. ShovelHook

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    Ortiz was actually caught first against Wilder in their fight, do you not recall the first knockdown in the fifth round? AJ wouldn't survive that situation, he really couldn't take that kind of punch.
    Agreed that Molina is cat and Ruiz is better, but Wilder still KOd Molina and didn't get put down by that shot...
     
  15. MarkusFlorez99

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    Ortiz has 0 head movement. Even Joshuas stiff ass outclasses him in that category. Joshua would catch Wilder first. It would be the left hook counter.

    Ruiz caught him with a left hook to the temple in an exchange after getting knocked down. Wilder would not be in that situation. He gets up and he goes into survival mode. Wilder wouldn't exchange combinations with Joshua. He doesnt even have that in his arsenal. He can't box on the backfoot either so he just gets knocked out.

    Wilder ducked him. End of