If Emanual Steward was still around and trained AJ…

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  1. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    Anthony 'Timorous Giant Bodybuilder' Joshua.
     
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  2. ConfusedGuy

    ConfusedGuy Member Full Member

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    This is my viewpoint also. I do feel if Steward was running things in AJs camp he may have been able to get him to utilise his height and reach more, but at the end of the day I don't think AJ has the attributes to ever be as good as Wlad was.
     
  3. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Steward would improve him like he did Lewis and Wlad but it might be a tad late in the day to get the full benefit. Altho Scuba Scott is rebuilding Wilder into a killing machine at 36.
     
  4. Blandman

    Blandman Active Member Full Member

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    For one fight, no. But, assuming over the longevity of his career, maybe.

    The question probably relates more to core abilities. Physically, AJ is truly a special talent. Skills, he’s better than many give credit but far from the true boxers that were brought up learning and practicing since early childhood. Mentally, I haven’t seen the iron will and his confidence appears to be full of doubt presently.

    Maybe I’m just in awe of Stewards work with Lewis and Wlad but, I think he could have turned AJ into a much more dominant fighter. Although, I do think regardless, Fury would always be the perfect nightmare opponent for AJ.
     
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  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    James Ali Bashir was close to Steward. Not sure why AJ doesn't bring him ion board.. He would have been introduced to him when he spent time in the Klitschko camp
     
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  6. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Saying he can't improve is ridiculous. You don't know that. Whether it's enough to beat Usyk is a different story.
     
  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I doubt it. Lewis was special from the beginning. Joshua was hyped from the beginning.
     
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  8. edabomb

    edabomb Active Member Full Member

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    Watch Lewis pre-Emanuel. He was pretty much the complete opposite of AJ IMO, he boxed loose and threw every punch under the sun. Steward took those tools and refined them, minimised risk. With AJ he'd actually have to add a few tools to his belt, so it would have been very interesting.
     
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  9. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Maybe Teddy Atlas would have been a better choice. AJ does seem to need a good smack in the chops.
     
  10. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Yes you're crazy. AJ doesn't have Wlad's talent by a long shot; Steward knew that Wlad was the most talented HW ever at the time and said as much.

    Steward wouldn't have wasted his time with AJ. He'd have trained Fury (he even said so) and if not Fury then Wilder, who he thought was the second best prospect. Both Fury and Wilder have far more tenacity than AJ which is the first trait he looked for in a fighter.
     
  11. pepsiclassic

    pepsiclassic Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and he posted the video by Fouts of why Joshua has litterally no chance.

    and then Fouts makes the video how "the fight still went exactly as I said just Joshua gassed"

    meh
     
  12. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whys everyone banging on about Wlad and Lennox?

    Wlad "clinch whenever I can because I don't know how to actually box" Klitschko.. Beat up on small guys and his best wins against Haye (an injured one at that) and Povetkin should be disqualifications for his scummy tactics. Shameless "boxer". Overrated to high heaven.

    Lennox Lewis is less of a joke than Wlad but the idea he was "smart" or a "pugilist" is exaggerated to **** considering his resume - fat past prime midget Tua, joke Tyson fight, hypejob Grant, 37yo Holyfield, AIDS inflicted Morrison. Well done you walked around a fat Tua and beat a game but old Holyfield (not to mention the 30lb weight advantage, and height /reach)

    Let's stop over hyping these guys come on... And before some helmet says "oh you can always pick apart someone resume".. **** off.. Why justify a manufactured opportunist career? I guess that's what makes "champions" these days ay.
     
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  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, Steward couldh have helped Joshua, but in the process Joshua would bore the hell out of us all.
    Joshua would be converted to a jab and clutch guy that would'nt thrown anything else but the jab until the opponent was spent from trying to reach him.
    Safety first timid fighter and only semi-open up late if you feel your opponent is spent. Does'nt make for good entertainment.
     
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  14. Blandman

    Blandman Active Member Full Member

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    Emanual was in McCall’s corner for this one. I followed Lewis early on, Steward made the difference between very good and ATG.

    As far as being exact opposites, I’d say different fighters, noting I would pick pre-Emanual Lewis to beat AJ with no hesitation.
     
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  15. Blandman

    Blandman Active Member Full Member

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    [QUOTE="NEETzschean, post: 21289903, member: 124165"]Yes you're crazy. AJ doesn't have Wlad's talent by a long shot; Steward knew that Wlad was the most talented HW ever at the time and said as much.

    Steward wouldn't have wasted his time with AJ. He'd have trained Fury (he even said so) and if not Fury then Wilder, who he thought was the second best prospect. Both Fury and Wilder have far more tenacity than AJ which is the first trait he looked for in a fighter.[/QUOTE]

    Thank you :)
     
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