Usyk and Haye at cruiser is a true 50-50 fight

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  1. Boxlight

    Boxlight Active Member banned Full Member

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    Haye had insane power and speed....would be a 50-50 fight
     
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  2. Notepad12

    Notepad12 Member Full Member

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    Tony Bellew wiped the floor with Haye. He also lost to Usyk.
     
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  3. Boxlight

    Boxlight Active Member banned Full Member

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    haye was past his prime
     
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  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Are you sure? Haye wasn't nearly as dominant at Cruiser as it was made out to be.
    2-1 in titlefights, and they went to great lengths to hide all the video's of him getting dropped and buzzed by his opponents at the time.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Stopped by a 40 y/o Carl Thompson albeit he blew his wad after trying to get Thompson out of there

    Dropped heavily and came within a whisker of being on the wrong end of being KTFO by blown up SMW journeyman Mock who was 0-4-1 in his last 5 fights and had only stopped 7 of his 21 victims. Haye was in such bad shape after hauling himself off the canvas on wobbly legs he had to rugby tackle Mock to the canvas to buy more time for his head to clear.

    Usyk would get absolutely crucified if he got dropped heavily, very badly hurt, and very nearly stopped by a blown up SMW journeyman who was 0-4-1 in their last 5 fights :lol:


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    He also went life and death against Fragomeni who would've likely won had he possessed any semblance of power because he was giving Haye hell

    Dropped and put on spaghetti legs by Mormeck who wasn't a particularly big puncher at all

    Lasse Johansen gave him a tough fight too

    Two of his best wins at that weight came against opponents who were packing serious glass in their mandibles (Enzo and Gurov). Both those guys could undoubtedly punch but Guvov had been stopped x 4 going into that fight, 3 times of which early (1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounds), and Enzo had been KO'd in 3 by a domestic level and would go on to lose 2 of his next 3 fights via stoppage too, and then the following year after that last KO loss he was brutally sparked out cold by Frenkel which was one of the most violent and ugly KO's thine eyes have ever witnessed.

    He was also stopped by a tiler in the ABAs and by Solis in the world championships

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    These are Haye's best wins at CW

    Mormeck
    Fragomeni
    Enzo
    Gurov


    Very dangerous customer for sure with dynamite in his fists but the only question is whether Usyk stops or outpoints him. I got Usyk via stoppage in the second half of the fight.

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  6. Scott Cork

    Scott Cork Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk is a level above Haye. Haye was crying in car with Jones and Nelson after Gayj lost. Were you the uber driver?
     
  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Wow! @Serge basically destroyed this thread before it got any traction.
     
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  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Haye was shot. Usyk had a hard time with Bellew until the stoppage too. He was down on the cards.
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol:
     
  10. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk destroys him
     
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  11. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye was old and shot
     
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  12. LucioFulci

    LucioFulci New Member Full Member

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    No. Usyk has surpassed Haye in every metric.

    -Usyk undisputed crusierweight champ, Haye only unified.
    -Usyk united heavyweight champ, Haye only titles.
    -Usyks wins as cruiser (Gaaiev, Breidis, Glowacki, Huck, Bellew, Mchunu, Hunter) dwarf Haye's wins of Fragomenni, Macarenelli, and Mormeck
    -Usyk's win of Joshua is better than Valuev and Ruiz put together

    Usyk is demonstrably in another league
     
  13. Themessiah

    Themessiah El Jefe Full Member

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    Lol Haye is so overrated
     
  14. Mighty

    Mighty The Gypsy King banned Full Member

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    Usyk beats bumaye like a step child.
     
  15. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye was shot to **** and still having his way with bellew til his leg went
     
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