When the old man almost had it.

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  1. Barrf

    Barrf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holyfield-Holmes. Holmes came out looking incredible, completely dominated round 2, and I think was clearly ahead after the first six rounds, and then he just couldn't keep up the pace against Evander.

    I think it's still the only fight I've seen where the commentators and analysts spent much more time complimenting the loser than the winner.

    .. and the interview Holmes gave at the end was pure class, everything he should have always been in the past.
     
  2. highlander

    highlander Active Member Full Member

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    foreman actually won that fight. briggs even knew he lost. he slumped back to his corner, sat down and hung his head. when he was announced the winner, he looked just as surprised as every one else. hell, the even had his name ALREADY on the belt when it was handed to him. that was a fixed fight!
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Unfortunately, this is not what determines the winner. Good effort by Foreman with the jab, but he was thoroughly outlanded in power punches.

    Deal with it.
     
  4. highlander

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  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Holmes was no-where near "clearly ahead after the first six rounds." This claim was explored a while back in here and debunked. One single card in here didn't have Holyfield ahead at halfway and there isn't a single one that has Larry ahead on EOTR either. A fine effort considering but not one where he almost had it.
     
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  6. tommytheduke

    tommytheduke Active Member Full Member

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    Louis-Walcott 1. IN the last moments of the ninth round a right from Louis had JJ in full survival mode
     
  7. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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  10. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When he was in his seventies (kidding!), Sonny Liston had a nice run in 1968 until Leotis Martin got him in late 1969, a fight that Liston was leading. Rose to #3 in Ring, #2 in Boxing Illustrated, #3 in the WBC, and even #5 in the WBA, which despised him.

    Sonny really got the short stick in boxing. He blew through the division yet had to wait on his title shot. He won the title and got none of the general public accolades that heavyweight champs got in those days. Had the misfortune of running into probably the greatest heavyweight of all time. The Lewiston fight would've been declared a NC today and a third fight would have been held. Couldn't get licensed in New York. Even when he climbed back into the ratings he was forced to fight subpar opposition. Beating Martin and injured him so badly that Martin never fought again, but got caught and kayoed. Signed for an interesting fight against George Chuvalo, with Jerry Quarry on deck, before dying under suspicious circumstances.

    You could say that Sonny made his own bed, but today he'd be celebrated as a hard-luck case who beat the odds and made good.
     
  11. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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    1. Marciano Vs Joe Walcott
    2. Holmes Vs Norton
    3. Wladimir Vs Joshua
    4. Holyfield Vs Qawi
    5. Holyfield Vs Foreman
     
  12. HaglerwontHaggle

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    Patterson/Quarry both fights. Although Patterson was 32, he was 10 years older than Quarry.
     
  13. HaglerwontHaggle

    HaglerwontHaggle Member banned Full Member

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    They were the same age.
     
  14. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    46 year old Evander Holyfield losing a disputed Majority decision against Nicolai Valuev in 2008.
     
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  15. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Addict Full Member

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    100% this. I couldn't believe Pineda had enough left in the tank to put up that effort
     
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