They'll never get over it. That's the problem. They're stuck for life trying to twist and spinning their way into explaining how it was that GGG failed to defeat Canelo 2x. They'll never accept the reality of what happened, that Canelo flat out beat GGG at his own game, dethroned GGG, his fans refuse to accept what happened.
Canelo is more famous than GGG right? Yet 90 % of planet earth thinks GGG won the first fight including Canelo fans. So i dont have to spin anything. It's like night and day, when its day its day, and when it's night its night, nothing to debate, nothing to spin.
You were spinning those who predicted GGG would KO Canelo to be well they didn't really mean that, they meant he would have to. No, we both know they meant that they thought that the GGG would stop Canelo. 90% of planet earth is a myth. You could take every online poll that had GGG winning either fight, you could add up all the people who voted in those polls, and all you have is a tiny fraction of so-called "planet earth". Maybe a couple hundred people total, most of which are probably GGG fans who rooted for GGG and predicted he would win beforehand and are merely voting he won to back their original prediction. Expectations clearly played a large role in those %s. The %s of pre-fight predictions were generally the same as the post-fight polls about who won. This is normal and completely understandable. When you have two fights that were both razor close round by round and on the cards and could be argued either way, naturally what those polled predicted could be argued after two close decisions where there was not a clear winner. This isn't rocket science. Pretty much the same % of people who predicted GGG would win beforehand ended up arguing he won afterwards. That doesn't indicate anything other than he was expected to win, and when he didn't the people who predicted he would win before hand argued he won afterwards to support their original prediction as a means to prove themselves right when their prediction didn't pan out.
the man got a draw then got his ass beaten in the second fight and honestly it’s better that he lost, this man ain’t fought nobody before or after Canelo pretty much beat this man into retirement. Dude spent his years chasing after a then Jr MW only to get beat by a guy moving up in his first fight smh
In fairness to GGG, Canelo isn't just some random Jr MW who moved up. Canelo is a special, special fighter and it took a special fighter of the caliber of Canelo to beat GGG. And as great as Canelo fought, both were highly competitive even matchups. What I'm getting at is that both Canelo and GGG deserve credit, for giving us two classics. Canelo was a Jr MW but he was outgrowing that division and very comparable to GGG size wise. And now he's fighting at weight classes above where GGG fought at, which is a credit to Canelo as he's undersized at these higher weights but is thriving against bigger fighters. So it's not a knock on GGG that he couldn't beat Canelo, it's just a statement of fact with the understanding that a GGG decision win in either match is a reasonable argument that should be respected, but only to the extent that a Canelo victory is also respected with the understanding that both matches were objectively close and very hard to score.
Both were great fights absolutely, and GGG gave a great effort, but Canelo's performances were better and more impressive, and thus was more deserving of victory. Your expectatons may have affected your scoring, but that's open to interpretation and debate. I'm not here to tell you you're wrong for scoring either match for GGG. Both matches are arguable either way and that's what should have been the takeaway. Not that Canelo winning or the draw was some kind of a robbery, but that these close controversial, debatable results speak to how well both fighters matched up and how competitive and entertaining they were.
GGG didn't lose either. Ringside media in the 2nd fight had 40 for GGG, 15 a draw and 2 for Canelo. Im trying to be nice about the 2nd fight because it was so competitive, saying GGG got his ass kicked is just plain being a revisionist.
You can get an ass whoopin and still be competitive. You keep your ring side media, I'll keep the boxers, trainers (including Abel Sanchez), and atg boxers who said Canelo deserved the victory.
He said he deserved it in the sense that he came forward and made it close. Abel always said he thought GGG won both fights, even to this day.
Much of the ring side media were rooting for GGG, they were part of the GGG hype machine that had bought into the idea that GGG was unstoppable. They, like the many fans who participated in pre-fight prediction polls, had predicted GGG would win, and they expected GGG to win, so when the first fight went the distance and was close of course they didn't want to look bad after predicting GGG would win then admit they were wrong by saying Canelo won. Much of the media had too much pride to go against their prediction that GGG would win and say that Canelo won a close fight, especially with the way Canelo fought the first fight fighting off the backfoot. They having bought into GGG being the Champ would feel as though Canelo had to do more than just outbox GGG to beat "the Champ" of the division, Canelo had to fight their preferred style in order for the media members to score rounds for him. We all know much of the media prefers aggressive come forward fighters. That's why more of the media scored the rematch for Canelo, because of the way he fought, as the story of the fight and how Canelo fought GGG was a big component to how they scored it.
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Shadow can you just stop.. How many times have I got to repeat this? You don't know how to score fights, you exaggerate everything Canelo lands and score grazing probing punches from Canelo as if they are clean or impactful. You've demonstrated this bias time and time again. Your assessment of rounds is just pure Canelo delusional fanboyism. Your value on judging Canelo fights is absolute zero.. You're not to be trusted. And you're a filthy spin artist so crawl back in your hole you weasel
LOL so according to you, were the official judges assessment of rounds just "pure Canelo delusional fanboyism" too? By the way the quote you posted didn't have anything to do with my scoring of the matches, I was explaining the media's infatuation with the GGG hype machine, and you can't deny that expectations played a big role in how the media and fans scored each match, so your response about my scoring had zero to do with what you quoted. I pointed out that the %s of those who said GGG won in polls matched the pre-fight prediction poll %s which predicted GGG would win, and it's important to understand this when looking at how the perception of each match played out.
