Fury "I’m around 20st at the moment, nice and high, plenty of weight on me"

Fury seems to have become obsessed with the idea of 'bigger is better' since Wilder 2.

I suppose it's an easier point of view to handle when you're a 6'8", nearly 300 pound man, that has long abused his body, struggled with motivation, and is probably losing some of the speed and sharpness that once defined him.

Wonder if his perspective has changed after Joshua failed to 'walk right through' Usyk as he expected?

Could just be chatting sh*t though, never know with Fury.

 

It doesn’t matter, Fury is accustomed to carrying the weight, he will be just fine regardless what he weighs. He will either win or lose based on his performance and/or Wilders performance. In this case the weight is irrelevant.

 

Completely agree. If we want to be able to rewrite the draw we cannot argue against the obvious mcdermott loss.

 

As much as i can't stand Beyonce i would find it slightly humorous if a wild windmill did connect and Fury was ko'd. it's a possibility although unlikely. Just a bit bored with hearing how invincible Fury is when clearly that's not the case.

 

You never heard of double chins lol. Twice the chin, twice the cushioning.

 

Wilder is getting slower and more useless, hes getting on.

 

generally believe fury is going to maul him even worse because wilder hates being pushed back.

 

The robbery draw was tough to legislate for (and my records duly indicate that I wisely took a pass on betting the first fight, [url]despite my stated belief that Fury would beat Wilder[/url]).

But last time out was an easy 10X; [url]https://i.postimg.cc/GtFVNYJv/001.png[/url]

None of us can rewrite a boxer's record. History books will record the Fury-Wilder I world title bout as a draw, but historians will note that it was considered a highly controversial result which drew widespread criticism across the industry and the wider sports news media.

By contrast, Fury-McDermott I was a domestic trade fight for an English title, involving a green, barely twenty-one-year-old kid who'd been a professional for significantly less than a year and who was taking on an experienced and respected campaigner in only his eighth professional bout.

One was a learning fight on the way up to vastly bigger moves (though it was among the more significant bouts in McDermott's career), the other was a world title fight between two experienced professionals in front of a packed Staples Center and PPV audience. Put simply, one of those bouts held much greater significance — not just to Fury, but to the sport in general — than did the other.

Fury's record isn't "flawless", whether one looks at it from a purely statistical angle or a substantive one, and you were entitled to pick the nit in @xnico's statement, but let's be clear that the (sensational Guardian headlines aside) relatively minor controversy which surrounded the Fury-McDermott decision does not preclude or negate criticism of a decision which was meted out almost a decade later and which engendered hoots of derision from across the world stage.


As for Fury-McDermott itself;

I wouldn't state that Fury had a legitimate case to have won the fight, but nor was it a categorical victory for McDermott or a robbery. The popularity of that opinion had as much to do with the prevailing negative sentiment toward Tyson at the time (his personality, his background), as well as the everyman's excitement at seeing his representative threaten to upset the rather homespun apple cart that Fury and Hennessy were pushing uphill (Tyson was never close to being the most hyped UK heavyweight prospect of the twenty-first century). Yes, O'Connor was almost certainly consciously favoring Fury with his verdict, but 95-95 would have been a quite valid and defensible score for the jackass to have posted. Fury-Wilder I is, objectively, a much clearer case of a rightful winner being screwed out of his moment.

It can't be said that I don't support my position with a scorecard and a breakdown of how and why I split the rounds, unlike many who reference this fight;

 

@navigator


Nice post, look all I said was we can't call his record "flawless" and say he is 31-0 as was suggested because if we do that and ignore and then rewrite official records then we have to do it for the McDermott result.

That's all.

 

I agree with that; to state that his record is perfect is to overlook a wrinkle, one way or the other.

I just wanted to note the distinction between the significance of those bouts and clarify that the one modest controversy does not negate the larger one, and also put some nuance to the prevailing school of thought re. Fury-McDermott I (which isn't to say that I think Fury deserved the W, or that the official's score wasn't dreadful).

 

Just saw the Wiki page of his trainer:

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SugarHill_Steward[/url]

I always thought his name is spelled "Sugar Hill Steward", but its actually "SugarHill Steward".

So it seems "SugarHill" is one name and not two names.

 

I doubt he trained for this fight,but he wins probably anyway

 

I knew he'd win the second fight when I saw that despite his weight gain his face and neck looked like muscle. He went into the ring looking like a giant staffie in that regard.

If he looks flabby up there then it may end up being a harder fight than last time.

 

Fury is going to take Wilder to Glass Jaw City and KO him on China Chin Avenue. Wilder is and will always be an extremely limited fighter no matter who is training him. You could give him Ray Arcel, Eddie Futch, and Emanuel Steward and he isn't going to be able to deal with a guy with the size and skill set of Fury. Instead he has Malik Scott who is an absolute joke.

 

Fury is going to walk wilder down, barely taking steps backward unless to put distance in wilders right hand like in the 2nd fight. Hes going to come forward and bully him and up close wrestle and put his weight on wilder.

prediction: fury wins by ko in 3rd round, wilder unable to beat count.