Is Povetkin being rushed too fast?

He is not being put in with Klitschko,....He is being put in against Cris Byrd. Then the winner to face off the winner of Brock and Fast Eddie. Read...................................................................................................................

 

I guess reaching the age of 27 while knocking out hopeless bums, undersized cruiseweights and ageing veterans equals having a lot of balls and a guaranteed win over the best HW out there. A-ha, a-ha, I thought so.

 

It's not that he doesn't have a chance. You make it sound as if he's guaranteed to beat Wlad, which is laughable. Let me ask you something: who has Sasha even beat to hold his chances so high?

 

It's not as if Povetkin is a green boxer, he's been fighting for years and has VAST experience.
So far he's surpassed people's expectations,and has a good couple fights before he maybe fights Wlad.

 

BTW, Povetkin is possibly the only heavyweight today who has the right style against Klitschko. But remember, "right style" doesn't always mean a guaranteed victory.

Right now we've seen Wlad against tall boxers, short boxers, counterpunchers, pressure fighters, sluggers, brawlers, etc. and while he's had his share amount of difficulties he's still lost only three times out of 50+ fights. That means that he's had experience with virtually every existing style of boxing.

But it's not the style that really mattes, it's the quality of execution. Povetkin executes well, but against whom?

On the other hand Povetkin has fought 13 fights against low level opposition, which is expected of anyone who's at the beginning of their pro career. Look at Tyson's fight 20 opponents, look at Lewis' and so on. And he's had his share of trouble too, even against weak competition. The number of shots he took from Ahunanya, for example. But among all of the people on his resume there's no one who even comes close compared to Wlad. Which means Povetkin hasn't had the right experience yet. So yeah, in theory he's got the right style, but has it been practically proven yet? No, it hasn't.

So i guess it's completely valid to say that he's probably not ready yet. For the simple reason of that we haven't seen him beat anyone who even remotely resembles Klitschko in style, power and skill.

 

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So here's a comparison to LL's first 13 Pro fights.
Povetkin's looks more impressive to me:deal

 

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Povetkin needs name recognition outside the circle of us hardcare fans.
He fights out of Germany for a German promoter,but hardly any sport fan in Germany has ever heard his name.Povetkin is totally unknown in Germany.
He needs more fights in order to make some noise and get a following in Germany which is one of the biggest box markets on this planet,and where a top fighter usually earns more money than in the USA (well,apart from a handful of elite fighters a la De La Hoya).
Money is the name of this game.Therefore a fight between Povetkin and Wlad would be far too early if it took place within the next 2 years.
So far Povetkin's Germany promoter has done an excellent job,but now is the time to make Povetkin's name known among casual sport fans.
Of course Povetkin has a chance to beat Wlad! Povetkin is probably the best fighter Wlad will ever have faced in his entire pro career.
Povetkin was a superstar at the amateurs-one of the most dominating heavyweights at the amateurs of all times.
Fighters like Calvin Brook or Sam Peter were dwarfs compared with that giant and his huge shadow which no present pro fighter of the younger generation was able to cross at the amateurs.
However,the pro game has its own rules.Markebility is one of the most important factors in the paid ranks.At times a fighter's skills are not really that important.
Povetkin desperately needs name recogition among casual box fans worlwide.No German or American tv channel will pay millions of dollars or euros for a fighter who is hardly known outside the circle of us hardcore fans.

 

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Chirs Byrd will be a good match up for Povetkin. He will win that fight much the same as he beat Donald. Controlled and winning every exchange. Byrd would do much better agint Chambers. Who is not as crisp a puncher and tends to telagraph his shots. While we are on the topic of Chambers I am disapointed team Povetkin has not got him in the ring. Chambers style is a ko waiting to happen against the accurate Povetkin. He will rake Chambers body when he falls into that shell with his hands around his face. Then close the show when the hands come down. Povetkin is the real deal. He is going to give Team Klitchko nightmares. If Wlad was smart he would be fighting him next before he got any better.

 

I don't think he is being moved too fast. Fact is, he can handle it. Wlad appears the best in the division so he'll never face a Wlad to prepare him for what Wlad brings. However if he gets past Byrd then Brock/Chambers he sure as hell will have what he needs under his belt.

He'd have gone 12 rounds, beaten numerous contenders, got a **** load of experience etc

Some can be moved fast, some can't. Povetkin and his team seem to be cool with it.

After 15 fights he'd have done what someone with 25 fights has but would have ten less journeymen on his record.

 

I do think Povetkin matches up VERY well with the three in the tournie. None of them are particularly big, strong or powerful. They are all skill merchants and Povetkin doesn't have an issue with that.

To be honest, I think Povetkin would need ONE more fight against someone like McCline. A big *******.

 

If taking huge steps so fast while easily dominating his opponents, then getting into a tournament with two top HWs, and fighting the recognized #1 HW Champ in the world in his 16th fight doesn't equal balls, then I don't know what does.

Let me take a few minutes and try to understand what you said in that single sentence..

So let me get this. You agree that Povetkin is a force to be reckoned with and could beat Wlad after a few good tune ups, but you say that he doesn't stand any kind of chance against him after two fights against top HW's? NO chance? "saying povetkin as everything for him in a fight between him and wlad is proving the fact that u are a fanboy and nothing else"? It is? That statement only proves that you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. Povetkin does have everything (and more) that one needs to beat Klitschko. The question is if Povetkin could actually be ready to take him on so early and I think the answer is yes. Wlad has never faced anybody in his career who has everything that he has on paper. Wlad has gotten knocked out 3 times and he has improved since his last loss a few years ago, but his chin is still glass. Povetkin's skills, natural abilities, toughness, and confidence present a VERY serious threat to Wlad.. a threat that's much bigger than any threat he's seen so far after the first Brewster fight. That's not just "fanboy" talk, it's looking at the situation realistically and I think most people would agree with that.

Yes, I make it sound like I think it's a guarantee that he will beat Wlad. I am confident in him and that's that. I could turn it around and say that it is laughable to think that Wlad KOing Povetkin is a guarantee also. This is besides the point.

Who has Povetkin beat? It doesn't matter. That's not what you ask when a young pro fighter is up against a champion. If you asked that about Tyson in early '86, you would get a useless answer. When you look at a young pro against a champ, you look at what he has already accomplished in his life and you look at his skills/abilities. Povetkin is not just another super HW gold medalist, he is a legendary amateur HW. He has carried what he learned in the amateurs to the pro's very well and when you look at him move and act in the ring, it is clear that he is very experienced, relaxed, and knows exactly what he is doing. He has not lost a round in his career yet, even though he has taken huge steps very quickly in just 13 fights. He just shut out a world class opponent who in his last fight did enough to beat a HW champion in many people's eyes. Now next, you look at his abilities and skills. There is no question that he has great abilities. Power, speed, accuracy, reflexes, mental toughness, and chin (this isn't a fact yet, but there has been zero evidence so far to suggest it isn't). Skills: a great variety of punches, timing, countering, controlling the ring, balance, and more. After beating Byrd and Brock/Chambers, Povetkin will not be as green and although it would help to take some more fights before Klitschko, it shouldn't be a shock to see him beat Wlad so early in his career, especially when you look at everything he has and everything that poses a threat to Wlad.

Wow, that's a long-ass post. I spent too much time in this thread. I'll start talking about Povetkin stuff once the matches become official, but for now, I've had enough arguing with you guys about this for so long, especially a certain 56 yaer old guy who thinks a prime Larry Holmes would get KOed by Corrie Sanders. :dead Can one of you at least say, "yes, I see how Povetkin could be a huge threat to Wlad when you look at both of them, even so early in his career"?

 

Right, while Povetkin may not be ready, right now, after these two fights against world class opposition, he just may then be ready to at least take a stab at fighting Wlad.

Povetkin should be really tested after these two upcoming fights. Then we'll see if he's Wlad ready.