Can we stop saying that Wilder is the hardest...

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  1. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Agreed.

    For me, he has nothing on Wlad.
     
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  2. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    But he isn't.

    Wlad is, Tyson is, Lennox is, Wilder isn't.
     
  3. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you see the Stevern rematch?
    He was really out of shape. He didn't even train. When he was in shape he was KOed by Demetris King, but Wilder couldn't do it.
    Wilder has power in his right hand, but he is not a great puncher. He never KOed a top iron chin opponent in his career. Mostly C level fighters with mediocre chins.
     
  4. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    You can mate. He has made a career out of fighting C level opponents, no decent names on there. Some with F all desire, and one opponent as we know took a dive, that person is now his trainer. Just one big circus show that people have gobbled up as legit. His level of opponent haven’t got a winning mentality and when they do he has life an death or loses
     
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  5. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He might well be the hardest punching heavyweight in history, he is clearly the hardest punching heavyweight of his era, comparing between eras is impossible to quantify anyway.
     
  6. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's going to be remembered as one of the hardest punching HWs in boxing history. Nothing that gets written on this forum will change that.
     
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  7. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    If he retires right now, yeah. If he actually has to start fighting top level opponents it's going to put his punch power into serious question
     
  8. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    Wlad barely hit Fury, and when he did it was in the later rounds when his energy was spent. Wlad was too cautious. Wilder, ironically, was too dumb to be afraid of Fury which is why he absolutely went for him.
    In any case, of those four knockdowns, one was from Fury daring Wilder to hit him, one was from Fury taking his eye off the ball, one was a blatant foul and the final one was the only real display of technique...and Fury still got up
     
  9. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I said this two years ago. I still think Wilder is a tier 3 puncher. Very hard hitter but just short of the historical mountaintop.
     
  10. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    fury is undefeated and wilder has laid him out in each of their fights.
    whatever you think of Aj and the rest of the crew at HW, wilder hits like a truck .
     
  11. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    I've long thought Mighty Mo was one of the hardest punchers I've ever witnessed in any fight sport. Semmy Schilt's jab was also ridiculous. Would literally knock iron-chinned fighters unconscious. Mo sucked as a boxer though, and Schilt wasn't much better in MMA.

    It kind of illustrates the point though that power isn't everything, and the big hitters we see at the top of the sport right now probably aren't the hardest punchers in an objective sense but those with the right combination of skills and athletic traits to make power their most dominant attribute. Wilder definitely is a huge hitter, but hardest hitter in history is a bit of a hyperbolic accolade that no one can really lay absolute claim to. He certainly is well in the debate though, as is anyone with that type of eraser that can drop or seriously hurt almost anyone they've been in the ring with at almost any point in the fight. David Tua is another one who springs to mind in that category, then at lower weights, Randall Bailey, Ezra Sellers, Julian Jackson etc.
     
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  12. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What I’m saying is Wilder does NOT have the explosive knock power that “erases” anyone

    He’s a hard puncher but he’s not “the hardest in history” like this clown claims,

    and after all, Wilders résumé is extremely weak of KOed opponents

    I EASILY put Lewis, Tyson, Wladimir, well above Wilder as far as knock out power Partially due to the quality of opponents they knocked out, and the “ lack of quality” people Wilder has knocked out

    Fury has taken it, gotten up, and beat him….. twice. So apparently can’t erase quite everyone. LOL


    Vladimir, Lewis, Tyson, there another level entirely and wilder, as far as punching power, and knocking out quality opponents
     
  13. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder has the best one punch knockout power in boxing history
     
  14. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    And couldn't put him away. It's also not the accomplishment people think it is to lay out Fury. Steve Cunningham did it, Neven Pajkic did it. The real challenge is keeping him down
     
  15. catchwtboxing

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    Washington, too, finished on his feet.

    I also believe the Harrison and Liakovich were dives, Harrison because he screamed before he was hit as if shocked that Wilder was really going to hit him, and Liakocich because of the theatrical twitching.