Should there be a super heavy weight division?

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  1. UFC2020

    UFC2020 Active Member Full Member

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    Is it fair to watch a 275-280 lb fighter win, bully his way to victory against a 220-230 lb fighter purely on the basis of his size.

    Its not a fair fight. Surely a 270-280 lb fighter should be allowed to face an opponent whose minimum weight is 260 lb at least. I would like to see how well Fury bullies a 260 lb plus fighter with his size, in the clinches
     
  2. edabomb

    edabomb Active Member Full Member

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    Even if they did have the super heavyweight division you'd still see the very best 220-230 pound fighters want to challenge the behemoths. So I don't see too much changing from now unless you mandate a minimum weight for super heavies.
     
  3. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    You could fill a super heavy division with maybe three fighters. The reason they split Heavyweight into Cruiserweight and Heavyweight is that they were seeing trends of Heavyweights getting bigger and bigger and didn't think it would be fair for the lighter heavyweights to fight these men. There's not that trend now, Fury's just a freak and an outlier
     
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  4. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Is there even 10 fighters that weigh 260 or more.
     
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  5. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Nope.

    Heavyweight is and always has been the "open" category.

    If heavyweight gets to be too broad a category then it creates the need for bridger - this is how cruiser came into existence and it's how bridger will begin to take hold... When fighters feel the chasm in weight gets too much they'll choose to fight as bridgers.
     
  6. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury’s weight wasn’t the problem. It was Wilder’s tactics that made him easily to bully. Everytime Fury wanted to move Wilder backwards he was able to, which isn’t good.

    I remember in an article after the Frazier-Mathis fight Marciano being very critical of Frazier letting Mathis muscle him around the ring and him saying that was a bad habit that would catch up with Frazier, which it did when he fought Foreman.

    Zack Page is tiny compared to Wilder and wasn’t getting manhandled by Fury. Everytime Fury tries to manhandle him Page puts his head into Fury’s chest or shoulder and gets his body at an angle. This Keeps Fury from being able to leverage all his weight on him. Zack would then step around Fury and resist being moved and several times even moved Fury backwards.
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    Wilder kept going inactive in the clinches and was getting muscled. Wilder’s trainer several times told Wilder to stop putting his head down in the clinches, since Fury headlocked him everytime. Your supposed put the top of your head into the jaw, shoulder, or chest so you can move your opponent. Putting your head completely down does nothing.
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    You want to create another division for Usyk to dominate?
     
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  8. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    It's something to consider. Fighters are always discredited for being weight bullies.
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It means five more heayvweight champions.

    Absolutely not.
     
  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No.

    We already have this bridger thing that no ones wants. The last ****ing thing we need is another division.
     
  11. alpo1

    alpo1 #TeamShanny Full Member

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    Wilder was a super heavy last night. 6'7 240 lbs ripped (probably heavier than fury if he was at the same bodyfat %).