How well has this aged

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  1. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Always respect your peers.
     
  2. N17

    N17 VIP Member Full Member

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    Superb stuff.
     
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  3. Blandman

    Blandman Active Member Full Member

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    Emanual Steward always told it like it was. I miss his honesty and wisdom. Thank you for the video.
     
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  4. Col Mortimer

    Col Mortimer The question isn't indiscreet.The answer could be Full Member

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    Great words & sincerity from the main man.
     
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  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    It's interesting. I think focus and discipline are talents, to a degree. They are talents that someone like Wlad had in spades. Fury admitted in the lead-up to the Wlad fight that he didn't have the ability to stay champion and fit the way Wlad did for years on end. He was right. That's probably why his toughness and talent don't include the ability to do that. Which is sad. Wilder seems like he has the ability for the physical discipline, putting the work in, not letting himself go, but he can't focus his talent to apply it to strategy as Fury can. As wild as he is and everyone knows his technique gets, I believe he has the physical talent to be far better with consistency, but it's a mental issue. He's like Gatti. He's well-trained, he does know what he's doing, but he's too hotheaded to use it consistently.

    He reminds me of Jermain Taylor a little, even though he hasn't beem as good on his default mode at all. But I remember Steward saying Taylor had all this talent and when told what to do, he yes sir'd and no sir'd and walked out of the corner with the intention and the physical ability to do something, but couldn't keep it from flying out the window when the fists started flying and that's Wilder, to me. So, in a way, I agree, he called something here but using my framing, I take another view of their toughness and talent. Which is why I'd take Joshua and Usyk any day to these two, and feel Fury can't be considered the guy who took over and dominated, because he's not dominating. Nobody has held on long enough to be dominant, but Joshua is more the face of post-Wlad heavyweight boxing than Fury, because even through loss, he's actually been doing those fights over and over.
     
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  6. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone Full Member

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    Only a few here on ESb since 2012 called the rise and heirachy of the Gypsy King.
     
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  7. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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  8. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His championing of Fury and Wilder, alongside his reservation towards Price, has aged like a damn Chateau Margaux.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Manny a G

    It aged about as well as this

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  10. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I sure didn’t. Back then I thought he had a really ironic name. “Frankenstein Pillowfist” would be more appropriate I said lol
     
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  11. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson Fury was a self uppercutting joke back then.
    Who would have thought he had it in him?
    Manny had a boxing prophets eyes in that regard.
     
  12. seansanashee

    seansanashee Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Many knew boxing too well. Always seemed to pick out which fighters could rise to the top.
     
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  13. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Amazing insight. How we miss you Emanuel.

    But he did miss a trick here, he got 2 out of 3. He missed the one man above them all.

    One ruler, one true king, to find them and rule them all, USYK
     
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  14. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Momento mori Full Member

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    After I saw him uppercut himself I said he'd be an atg
     
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  15. N17

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    Looking at things now.. Manny would have been perfect for AJ, absolutely perfect.