Floyd Mayweather Vs Sugar Ray Leonard who wins prime for prime

Same advantages as Leonard would have. And he was in his prime, chief.

 

No he wasn't.

Canelo has clearly improved since that fight. Not that he's anything overly-special now.

Again, SRL is in another league to Canelo. So is Mayweather.

 

I suppose Mayweather’s prime was as a 36 year old Jr. middle.

 

Where did I say that Mayweather was in his prime? All I said was that Canelo wasn't.

Prime for prime, Mayweather probably wins as convincingly.

SRL in his prime beats both convincingly.

 

Ha!

Are you actually being serious here??

Where’s the context?

What has an almost 41 year old version of Ray Leonard at MW, have to do with a PRIME version of Ray Leonard at WW? SMH.

Weren’t Marvin, Hearns and Duran etc, superior to a 35 year old Macho?

Why didn’t they also humiliate him??

Could it possibly have been to do with the fact that they all fought better versions of Ray than what Macho and Norris fought?

Am I being trolled here??

It’s like saying that Joe Calzaghe easily beat Roy Jones in 2008, so that means that fighter X could/would also have beaten a prime version of him.

It doesn’t matter what Norris and Macho did.

In this fight, Floyd WOUDN’T have been fighting those versions.

Also, at WW, Floyd didn’t fight like Norris and Macho.

Your points are completely and utterly irrelevant.

It doesn’t matter if you rate Floyd higher than Macho and Norris either.

The only thing that is relevant, is how Floyd and Ray would realistically have matched up when they were both prime.

Ray would have been a significant favourite. And if Ray had’ve fought Floyd and turned the bout from a boxing match into a fight, then what exactly could/would Floyd have done about that??

The answer is: Nothing.

 

Was Wilfred slick?

Yes or no?

 

Another silly and irrelevant post.

Again, I’ll ask if you’re trolling me.


Once again:

1. Ray was faded and at another weight against Norris.

2. Floyd and Norris weren’t alike.

All of which makes that fight completely irrelevant here.


It would be like me saying that I think a prime version of Mike Tyson would have crushed Wlad Klitschko, and then you coming back and telling me that Mike was knocked out by Danny Williams.


Again, IF Ray was getting outboxed by Floyd, he’d have switched tactics and fought Floyd, giving Floyd no answer. That is unless you’re deluded enough to believe that Floyd would have beaten him in a shootout.

 

Canelo wasn’t in his prime against Floyd, and the only advantages that he had were in strength and weight. But they weren’t advantages that he could capitalise on, as he was completely out manoeuvred.

He was bigger and stronger than Floyd, but Floyd had huge advantages in skills and speed.

Against a prime version of Ray Leonard, Floyd wouldn’t have had advantages in skills, speed or power.

From Floyd’s perspective, Ray Leonard would have been a much more dangerous opponent than what Canelo was.

 

wrong follower like I said nobody will prove Louis fought anybody who moved like razor or who cut the ring like George or hit as hard or who moved coming forward while still throwing

prove by vid somebody sugar fought who was as skilled as floyd

 

What on earth are you talking about regarding Louis?

You must be mixing me up with someone else.


Regarding Floyd, once again, whilst it’s true that Ray never fought anyone who was EXACTLY like Floyd, he fought guys who were on FLOYD’s level in terms of skills.

Although they possessed different skills, Duran, Hearns, Benitez and Hagler, were all on Floyd’s level.

Ray never fought anybody as good defensively as Floyd, but he fought guys who possessed EQUAL, OVERALL skill sets.


Now kindly answer my question:

Who did Floyd ever fight in his entire career, that even resembled a prime version of Ray Leonard??


Floyd never fought anyone in his career who had equal skills and speed to himself.

Floyd never fought anyone in his career who had equal skills and speed to Leonard.

Floyd never fought a prime ATG fighter in his entire career.

He’s never even encountered a guy of Ray’s calibre before.

A prime Leonard would have taken away all of the advantages that Floyd held over his lesser opponents.

 

Duran vs SRL 1 is available on Youtube.

 

Get ready for the Boxrec stats.

 

It’s interesting that you’ve wrote this, when on another thread, you think that Castillo beat him and that a prime version of Oscar could have done too.

 

Nah. FM has nothing at all on Leonard. Ray wins 10 out of 10 times IMO 147 was Ray's weight and he was flat out the greater fighter.

 

1) This really is a case of Monday morning quarterbacking because as we all know, Ray was the favorite to win and I couldnt find one expert or sports writer that picked Leonard to lose. His previous bout with Duran was convincing enough and no weaknesses were spotted. The only reason Ray seemed slow was because compared with Norris, he LOOKED slow

2) No, they weren't and this is what I said. I said that Floyd lacks Norris' power and should go to a decision. still, slick fighters give Ray tremendous difficulty. Ray is not going to be able to press Floyd with Floyd backing up as you imagine.

Ray wont be as "lost" as he was in the Norris fight, that was just a nightmare.

it may well resemble something like Pernel - Chavez. Not as bad as Norris Leonard but still bad enough