Wilder and Fury "the cherry pick gone wrong"

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  1. LandSwarm

    LandSwarm New Member banned Full Member

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    lol it's still funny to think how this was all a cherry pick gone wrong

    Fury was coming off 2 years of ring rust, 400 lbs, drug abuse etc. Wilder thought it was going to be an easy win, an easy win to grab the linear title which he felt would give him a stronger position in negotiations with Joshua... Frank Warren literally called Shelly begging for the fight saying Tyson was coming back for one last payday

    Fury literally trolled his way to the belt again :)
     
  2. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I still remember how Wilder declined 100 million dollars to fight AJ. Lol
     
  3. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    And even funnier to think Fury could literally roll in off a McDonald's relapse-binge for #3, blow out his ass for half the fight and still knock Wilder out.

    It's very much arguable that Fury won 3/3 despite being visibly way out of shape for two of the fights.
     
  4. LandSwarm

    LandSwarm New Member banned Full Member

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    i think he looked best in the 2nd fight
     
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  5. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes this is certainly a classic 'cherry pick gone wrong'. Flipped the entire script in the HW Division.

    All Hail the Gypsy King!
     
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  6. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lol, yeah he literally twice got to face adiminished versions of Fury and still couldn't legitimately beat him even once.

    You could argue Steve Cunningham did better than Wilder with just one attempt than Wilder did with 3 attempts, he dropped Fury like Wilder did but he also out boxed Fury being ahead on 2 judges scorecards something Wilder never did in any of his fights with Fury. He even lasted a little bit longer than Wilder did in fight 2.
     
  7. Mighty

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    If Fury is a cherry picking then what are bodybuilder AJ and street fighter Wilder? Lmao.
     
  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    What?
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nobody saying Fury is cherry picking it was Wilder who was cherry picking what he thought was a washed up Fury.

    It's well known Fury wanted Joshua prior to Wilder, but Hearns wanted Fury to face someone good before he fought Joshua so he could more easily sell the fight and generate more revenue which such a fight deserved. So Fury/Joshua didn't happen and Fury instead jumped at the chance to fight Wilder when he was actually the underdog going into the fight.
     
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  10. Mighty

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    My mean was actually this. Sorry I am a bit drunk atm.
     
  11. BubblesUK

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    It's arguably true to say the second fight is the only one of the trilogy that Fury was actually fully fit.
     
  12. theanatolian

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    It’s fair to say that Fury was a cherrypick for the first time around. It’s a little silly to say that he was a cherrypick for the second time around. It’s plain idiotic to say that he was a cherrypick for the 3rd time around.
     
  13. BubblesUK

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    I'd be surprised if anyone didn't think the first was a cherrypick.

    The second... I personally believe is a mixture of pride (having most of the boxing world believing you got a robbery draw) and Wilder thinking he could KO Fury in #2.
    Expecting Fury to come in with the same style, just fitter, I think Wilder believed he could silence those saying he only kept his belt via robbery AND boost his resume by actually knocking out a fighter that was levels better than he'd beaten before.

    The third... Pride again, hoping that he'd be able to avenge, possibly knowing that this was unlikely but desperate to try anyway - he had a rematch clause, so he could decide whether he wanted it again or not.
    There may be a slight element of spite going in there - holding off from calling the rematch clause in for as long as possible before dropping it on Fury just as it became clear he'd move on to a much bigger payday and much bigger fight.


    Still, it's true that only the first could reasonably be called a cherrypick (and it's somewhat unreasonable to argue otherwise) - nonetheless, that cherrypick for the first is what led down a path that Wilder surely wouldn't have chosen to go down had he had any idea what was waiting.
     
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  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury himself says that Cunningham was his toughest fight.
     
  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His team was seeking medically unfit fights at this time, obese guys like Stiverne and Arreola, and Ortiz who had blood pressure problems.

    They were actually seeking out guys not fit to fight, and if they had managed to squeak by Fury, they might have called Joe Mesi next.