Who ranks higher in ATG lists usyk or ward

Lmao

Where you fight someone has zero to do with accolades

 

Hello, my friend! Long time! I am sorry to tell your family's story but your papa was a brave man to do what he did. I know the family missed the poor man, after your daddy had him hanged like that but lessons always need learned. No matter the cost. The town-they understood this.

My friend...because you love boxing.

"The USA" is a country that is so big and with so many states. Ward fights away from his state so many times where his opponent can also make the most money. That is business. No one has a problem with this when Europeans fight in Europe and you must think of it like that. I have been to America. Texas doesn't even want to be part of it ffs. Different worlds throughout this place.

I watched Ward's medal win-I disagree.
Kessler was first to headbutt Ward in the fight, frankly. I am not surprised most of you don't seem to notice things like that.
Kovalev was not robbed at all. It was a close fight and Kovalev is far better than anyone Usyk has faced, imo.
If Ward was mediocre, then what does this possibly say about anyone who ever faced Kovalev, Froch, Kessler, etc? YOu are a mess, please sit down on your pants.

Surrix, my friend, I respect you and your conversation. But I do believe you are misguided and EXTREMELY selective in your quote of me trying to decontextualize a vastly greater conversation that I was so involved within. These links are just to BoxRec Bouts. Origin of boxing is important. It is withinside the very origin of humanity. Think about this.

Concision. It is precious, but often lacking to the sophisticate.

 

Should Usyk become the undisputed World Heavyweight Champion then the question need not be asked.

 

Why is it outrageous to pick Ward? Usyk has beaten some high quality fighters clean. But Ward fought Kovalev. Sergey was the best p4p fighter IN THE WORLD during the mid 2010s. Sure he should have lost a close decision, but you cant compare AJ to Kovalev or even Breidis to Kovalev.

Krusher was the real deal.

 

Always enjoy reading your posts.

 

Ward's resume is just better therefore he ranks higher.

 

You might think that origin of boxing is prizefighting in US however this isn't reality.
Yes, origin of boxing isn't nor US nor U.K nor Germany.
Please read a bit about history. Lurk in boxing history please and read articles about stuff called history.

Also think about this reality: origin from where does come ancestors of ppl living in the same U.S.

While it is considered that ancient Greece, maybe even ancient Roman empire might be origin of boxing, it is questionable.
Maybe Sumerian relief more than 3000 years before Christ was born.


Yes, if for you U.S prizefighters must be better, let's it be reality.
They most likely are more suitable to be punched in the face for a living.
Unlike indigenous ppl in america maybe.

Btw do you know when and why in England boxing turned into more popular thing?
In the same old times Greece?
History.

Romans does have quote and old Greece too, what thing determines a slave from free man.

Then there also other thing: ofc ppl if want to compete without too high risk, some rules are necessity.
This is why stuff called boxing and wrestling had been developed in shape we do know today.

 

Sure cos he is from US and we automatically might end all conversations here.
With this reality: boxers ORIGIN > resume.
Not vice versa.

 

Love both these fighters. I'll pick Usyk because he did everything on the road.

 

Usyk. The Road Warrior ver. 2.0 unified a stacked CW division all fights in his opponents backyard.

He then moved up to HW and put on a classic performance winning a wide UD over the British Adonis Joshua for four belts.

Its not that close really

 

I thought AJ is your hero??

 

I got usyk but it's close I hated ward and chose against him every time

 

Man, this is a good question. At first I thought Ward, but after more analysis, I'm not sure. Tough one.