Versus Eubank maybe he was a bit green, yeah. Not versus Reid though, he was entering what should have been his best years had he not pissed them away against fighters Saad would have wiped his arse with. And he got hit plenty vs Hopkins even if it was sloppy and not flush, are your eyes painted on? I thought he won but he looked like utter bollocks. My point was that he was susceptible to walking on to right hands. It happened all through his career and there is a large amount of footage to support it. I'm not criticizing Joe in an overall context, he was a fine fighter and I spent plenty of money watching him live. We've gotten into this based on you making one dense statement, a number of your usual non-sequiturs and apparently struggling to understand English.
We'll leave it at that mate, I think. I know you're not trolling because I know a troll when I see one. But this is such a strange, bad post that it's hard to seriously address it. I don't find you annoying as most do on here, but surely you must wonder why people just sack you off? That first statement, well...........you're just wrong. Not my opinion. There's mass footage of great fighters who incorporated brawling into their armoury at a world class level, the list is endless. You're just being thick. You then decided to use arguably the most physically gifted and skilled fighter ever captured on film, a top 5-10 level atg, to denigrate Saad by comparison. Pretty much every other fighter in history stacks up badly compared to Duran you absolute dipstick. Calzaghe is, historically, a stain on his undies by comparison. And Saad and Pryor were nothing alike but that's a whole other kettle of grog that I'm not biting on. Obviously you dislike and dont rate Saad to a degree that is very uncommon and not based on solid ground judging by the random verbal turds you've been gipping up in the thread and the couple of other points that you haven't addressed. Take it steady mucker, we'll agree to disagree.
You make this statement on the basis of Calzaghe beating two former middleweights? I don't think he would have beaten Conteh or Johnson ,and maybe not Lopez.Saad was a great light heavy, Calzaghe a great super middle.
If Joe managed to beat Yaqui, Johnson or Kates uncontroversially they'd be the best names on his list by a bit imo. And I'd pick someone like a prime Kates to take him in a good fight, I think. He was a seriously good light heavy, better than Hopkins at that weight for me. He'd more than have his hands full with Lopez and Johnson too I think. Saad also had an argument for beating EMM as I remember it (which is very hazily tbf) and he's not someone who when motivated I'd pick Calzaghe against either. Nor do I think Joe would've beaten Conteh of the first Saad fight, never mind the prime version. Running a gauntlet of Saad, Marvin Johnson, Kates, EMM, Parlov, Vonzell Johnson, Martin, Conteh, Camel etc? Yeah, he's not coming through that bunch undefeated. He'd do mighty well to have a winning record against them and that's no insult either.
The EMM fight was a split dec, Eddie on his day was a great light heavy.Yes Kates has a good shot at beating Joe C.I don't see the argument for making Calzaghe favourite over these guys.
Actually, being a brawler at a high level implies being very talented as it is based moreso off intangibles and intuition than Boxing. Being a world champion and beating the best of your time solidify you as 'world class'. This is what Saad did. Calzaghe only did one of the two. The stylistic components of the H2H match up have already been described in previous pages.
Calzaghe sometimes threw a lot of shoe shine flurries,he isn't beating the best175 pounders of the 70's .imo
You've been here for years Mark and still haven't digested that technique and the textbook do not necessarily win matches and supposed lack of it need not be a disadvantage. You have zero appreciation of talents like RJJ in particular and now apparently Saad. Have a look at Jones completing schooling a supremely skilled fighter like Toney. They looked like they didn't even belong in the same ring. Other assets can get you past a lack of technical perfection.
Toney couldn`t close the distance, he had problems with a cutie like Johnson too, plus Jones didn`t actually land that much on Toney.
No you are very wrong. Sorry but Lennox Lewis was not British he was Canadian and Jamaican. The winner of Luke Tyson Fury and Anthony Oluwafemi Olaseni Joshua will be the correct pick. Light heavyweight is John Conteh hands down so much talent. Middleweight is tough if you can’t include the Super Middleweights but if you can Super Joe Calzaghe all due respect to Eubank,Froch, Benn, Watson and Turpin. Welterweight clearly Lloyd Honeyghan all respect to Ted Kid Lewis and John H Stracey. Lightweight Ken Buchanan stands alone. Featherweight the one and only Prince Nadeem Hamed.
