Gene Wilder could have outboxed Stiverne never mind Deontay. What the hell had Stiverne ever done? Did you see Usyk against Joshua?
Wilder will always struggle against a well-schooled Heavyweight, who shows up in condition and with a will to win. Contrary to some of the more negative [internet forum] perceptions of the '80s heavyweight boxing scene, these types of Heavyweight Contenders and Title-holders did exist, back then.
How many world class guys has Wilder knocked out early? What about looking at how they’d have matched up stylistically?
I'm not backing off of anything. Thomas was stopped fairly early on 4 separate occasions, and two of the opponents who took him out aren't even particularly hard punchers. Wilder is a devastating hitter, easily top 5 of all time. Thomas had never "easily" outjabbed a man who had significant height and reach over him, unless you'd care to point out when this happened? On the contrary, Wilder did in fact outjab a man Thomas height and he did it easily. Usyk and Joshua have nothing to do with this discussion. Usyk is not Thomas. We have evidence of Usyk outjabbing a taller man. That's a completely separate discussion. I'm the only one using logic.
What in the flying **** does usyk have to do with Thomas vs Wilder? Is Usyk the Ukrainian clone of Thomas with the exact same talent and experience? Did Thomas ever outjab a man the height of Joshua or Wilder??? Yes or no? And part of the requirement is that he does so "easily", I'm not not letting that part of the hook..
