Savannah "The Gypsy Queen" Marshall vs Claressa "T-Rex" Shields - Who you got?

Boxing fans will enjoy watching Cameron fight next Saturday more than many of the male fights we have seen in the past.

Some women boxers are very good and there has been some really good fights.

Embrace the change and give them a chance.

 

I've already addressed this argument. It's not my fault you possess the attention span and reading comprehension of a functional ******.

The women are being given more airtime despite a lack of market demand, for entirely political reasons, and that's not quite the same thing as authentic growth of a sport. But keep eating up the propaganda, buddy.

 

Some interesting analysis of Sav Marshall- this guy is quite impressed:

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Some of these female boxers are very good and come to fight - Shields, Taylor, Cameron, Marshall and Persoon are good examples every time I have watched them.

 

Yes and they all want to fight the best. Cameron cant as Eddie wont let her near Taylor until Taylor is at the end of the road. Then he will feed her to Cameron.

 

Shield's strengths seem to be her speed of hands, volume of punches and strong will to impose herself on her opponent- only one loss in amateurs and pros shows a consistent winning mentality not to be discounted. If Marshall's power shots fail to slow down or put a dent in Shield's will to win then a points victory for Shields is quite possible. On the other hand Marshall looks like a rather special fighter with a large bag of tools: great relaxation and flow, great punch variety, choice of shots, great sense of distance, not easy to hit clean, heavy, accurate punching, great boxing IQ etc etc

Marshall is aware that there will be no other money fight like this in her career- financially speaking, an exciting, close match, then a re-match even a trilogy would arguably be better than an easy win... Anyway, I'd love to see SM make some decent money- I find her a very likeable, down to earth character as well as great to watch in the ring. A win over CS should propel her into national awareness, BBC sports personality contender territory...

 

Propaganda you really are getting away with yourself here, I’ve seen the sport explode at grass roots level all the way to world level and not by sitting in front of a computer screen

 

Chantelle has lost all faith in getting the Taylor fight. Taylor was expecting to fight Jonas again until Jonas jumped ship ,or was pushed?

 

It's a cellphone screen, from which I do a bunch of my posting on the move, but whatever. I'm in the gym week in and week out, (hell, I encouraged my own mom to attend the womens' sessions at St. Paul's when she wanted to shed some of the weight she'd put on from working a sedentary dayjob), and the numbers of girls showing an interest in boxing for reasons other than fitness are unchanged from my vantage point.

Yes, propaganda. Are you really trying to act like it isn't there? Even if you feel some kind of affinity for the womens' sport as a result of some personal involvement/investment, you could at least be candid about the (dishonest, overrepresented, underhanded) way this stuff is being presented to boxing fans and the obvious social agenda driving it. Sky have been trying to brute-force the womens' sport into public favor for several years now, its ubiquity on Sky telecasts in that period has owed much more to a progressive political agenda (and Hearn being a cheap hustler) than actual market demand or explosion of female talent, and that is not reasonably deniable. If we're going to call out the network's BS when it comes to the sins of the E. Hearn era, we cannot neglect to include the bogus promotion and force-feeding of womens' boxing to the uninterested great majority of boxing fans.

Then again, your post history shows you to be something of a Cameron shill/insider and a shill/cheerleader for the ladies' sport in general. Are you Chantelle herself, or just a gymmate?

You make it sound as if there were no prior attempts to push womens' boxing into the public consciousness, as if the ladies' sport is some recent phenomenon you witnessed from its inception up through a meteoric rise.

Put the estrogen puddings on their own shows, where they can sink or swim on their own merits, and it's all good. Personally, I'd sooner watch a Paint Dry-Pakora II than Chantelle Cameron.

 

Yeah. Taylor fight could still come if it suits Hearn.

 

You take a hardline stance against women's boxing which is fine.its interesting that on a male dominated hardcore boxing fans forum that very few actually agree with your take.i would rather watch Cameron than delboy tbh.

 

Well, it's a thread discussing a particular womens' bout, I figured I'd meet with some opposition. Those who agree with me are less likely to be browsing it than those who don't.

A kudos for being able to cope with someone else's opinion.

 

I agree. Marshall has better timing and that will cancel out Shields speed. I am very confident Marshall stops her, but would fancy her to win on points if it goes the distance. For future earnings be better for both if its a close points decision for a rematch.

 

'The silent assassin' is one of the more appropriate boxers' nicknames (some are laughably misleading...) Out of the ring, in interviews Marshall seems so diffident, soft spoken you wonder if she'll wilt in the heat of battle, but in the ring she seems remarkably cool, unflustered, calculating and deadly. The last Muzeya match was an accelerated drama in 4 minutes. From being on the back foot assessing Muzeya's initial storm, to establishing space to largely neutralize her and fire her own more telling shots, to systematically breaking her down to head and body to a brutal barrage to finish it.

 

Why did you watch if you find the idea of women boxing competively “vile”? We know that women aren’t as strong physically etc as men (just as I know that a welter weight is no where near as strong as a heavyweight), but competitive fights are what it is all about for me, I don’t care if they could beat a male fighter if they are exhibiting skill, courage and a will to win, as in say Taylor v Persoon.

I myself coach at an amateur gym and we have recently started to see a few young girls join and want to box. Of course you are entitled to your opinion but if we all thought like you we wouldn’t be giving these young girls the time of day.

You’ve talked a lot to basically say the same thing that you find it disgusting, perverse and unnatural that females should box. You said that giving them a platform is some short of sinister social engineering agenda, we’re as I see the opposite of that, what we had in the past was social engineering to ensure they didn’t have the opportunity to box.

Katie Taylor has to pretend to be a boy to box as a child ffs, that’s an example of social engineering that excludes a young woman from doing something they enjoy that is doing no harm to anyone else