Times when a fighter cares more about beating X, than they did about the title

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    There have been a few times through history, where a challenger placed a greater premium on beating the top fighter of their era, than they did on winning the title.

    When that happens, the champion/fighter in question, has got a big problem on their hands.

    Examples?
     
  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Very, very few it's a business.

    Where the $ go the fighter follows.
     
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  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don’t think there was a title on the line when Bowe and Holyfield fought for the third and final time. Evander was hell bent on knocking Bowe out. Didn’t happen of course but he attacked Riddick with vengeance and had him down
     
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  4. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    Joe frazier was probably more obsessed with the idea of killing Ali or atleast make him pay for all the trashtalks in their vicious third fight.
     
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  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Agreed. I think that simply “ beating “ Muhammad Ali took precedence over winning back the title by that point.
     
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  6. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It’s been a long time since there have been significant bouts with no titles at stake. I’ll come in with Zarate-Zamora, Schmeling-Louis, Marciano-Louis, and Young-Foreman. Tim Witherspoon recently talked about taking out James Tillis, because Tillis went the distance with Mike Tyson.
     
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  7. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Actually- I think if Hagler had to chose between a rematch with Leonard or restoring is title I know for a fact he'd have fought Ray in a parking lot with a chalk ring the next day if he could.
     
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  8. Lenny

    Lenny Member Full Member

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    Ray certainly knew the business.... A rematch would have been interesting
     
  9. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

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    yeah good question, there were undoubtedly hundreds of fighters who wanted to Knock the F out of each other.
     
  10. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Ted 'Kid' Lewis vs Jack Britton. You don't fight each other 20 times when it's 'just business'.
     
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  11. BCS8

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    Golovkin was ready to step in for Canelo's opponent at the drop of a hat. Sadly 40 isn't aged enough for ginger.
     
  12. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    Jeopardy style: Who is Joe Frazier (?) might constitute the near perfect answer to the premise..

    Always felt that Tommy Hearns was more overjoyed about his perceived “redemption” v one SRL in their rematch, with Hearns hanging tough, lasting the distance and not being stopped in the final rds as was the case in fight I. So much so that Tommy didn’t seem as displeased as he should’ve been over the draw decision in a fight which, imo, should’ve been awarded to the Hit Man. Some time after the fact, even SRL admitted that Hearns kicked his ass.
     
  13. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Louis in the Schmeling rematch,
    Frazier in the Manila,
    Hopkins in the Jones rematch
     
  14. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Starling and Honeyghan comes straight to mind.