CompuBox also states: "Ali landed an avg. 9 of 29 jabs per rnd. vs Joe" I believe the actual stat was: 135 Jabs landed, from 440 thrown.
Bro, you're getting worse than Unforgiven at this. If you really think Frazier had a better defense than Tyson then it's safe to say you're in that hater group. Your posts at Classic are turning into ****.
Using shot Frazier - fair game. Tyson in his physical prime - not. I don't know if any other set of fans utilises this kind of flawed reasoning as brazenly as Tyson fans do.
Tyson was better - for about 4 rounds. Tyson would always slow as the bout progressed. It's just the nature of his energy intensive style mechanics. Frazier could keep his bobbing and weaving, parrying etc. up in 15 round dogfights, against guys like Ali. That is insane, especially for his size. To me, Frazier is more impressive, but I'll try quantify some areas with my opinion. Slipping - Tyson clearly Bobbing and weaving - Close to even Parrying - Frazier quite clearly Neck rolls - Frazier Distance judgment - Tyson Inside Fighting defence - Frazier clearly Rolling of the shoulder - Frazier Footwork / angle switches - Tyson In conclusion, I feel Frazier had the more varied and studied overall defence, but Mike's specific form of defence was done at a slightly higher, more refined level.
For me it's clear that Tyson of Douglas was closer to his best than even Frazier of Foreman 1, not to even speak of Foreman 2. And in any case you know full well that neither of these were close to the best version of Frazier so you will only make yourself look silly by bringing them up but insisting on only using Tyson's best outings.
Frazier's dip and monster left hook is a personal favorite for me, but Tyson had a better variety of combos/punches to counter with.
