Does Davison Fury beat Wilder in fights 2 and 3?

He might, bigger chance he gets caught though.
You can never tell with Wilder.
I think Fury beats him like 8 out of 10 times when they fight and Wider knocks him out the other two.
For everything he lacks he always got that equalizer. The longer a fight last, the bigger chance for him to land.

 

Boxing Wilder at range giving him no pressure and not weakening him is a bad move. You saw even a tired and slightly hurt Wilder can still flatten you.

Just a waiting game with Wilder.

AJ needs to run at him also.

Even though Fury is a supreme outboxer Wilder is just so explosive it's almost impossible to avoid the right hand.

Fury was pretty damn sloppy the way he was just walking into him in the 3rd bout. He didn't get lucky because he is tough as nails but any other man would have got KO'd walking onto Wilder like that

 

The activity of 2019 under his belt, I believe he would've stacked rounds with even greater clarity than in the first fight, with his elite recovery powers and survival know-how seeing him through any perilous moments that arose. But it's an interesting scenario to think about.


It's in Fury's nature to shake things up, though. He always had the aggressive approach in his locker, which is why I took his words at face value and felt no apprehension when he would state his intent to walk Wilder down during the promotion for the return bout. That option was always there for him, it was just a matter of unshackling himself from Davison's excessive caution and bringing in a coach who had more faith in and affinity for the rumblin' side of Fury.

Far as I understand, Ben was given the option of remaining in the camp and assisting Steward, but declined on account of not wanting to be demoted.

 

Eh. I think he probably wins one of the bouts but if you try and tippy tap your way to victory against Wilder eventually you're going to get caught.

 

Fury could’ve beat Wilder in the first fight, but he pretty much ignored most of Roach’s and Davison’s instructions. In the last round Davison specially told Fury to not stand directly in front of Wilder. Had Fury listened he would’ve got the decision, but he didn’t and got put on his back, which allowed Wilder to get the draw.

I also don’t buy the hype that Sugar Hill suddenly made Fury into a better fighter. Everything Fury did to Wilder in the rematch was something Fury was always capable of. Fury could always punch or roughhouse his opponent when he wanted to.

The difference maker for Fury in the rematch was he had 12 rounds of experience with Wilder under his belt, which let him know Wilder was harmless in the clinch, so he simply took a more aggressive approach.

 

Interesting to consider, but ultimately a moot point.

Fury got off the deck in the 12th, shook off the cobwebs, went after Wilder like the champion he is and felt him give.

He knew then what he would do in a rematch. Go to that son of a ***** and knock him the **** out, because he could.

The rest is history.

 

Well, he backed up in a straight line admiring his work. A rare lapse in an otherwise alert and responsible defensive display.

I agree with this, but with the caveat that Fury has taken things from every trainer he's worked with, because he's a learner, eminently teachable.

For one, he hooks off the jab more freely now. That is certainly a Kronk trait.

It's not so much that SugarHill revamped him, he's just added wrinkles here and there while establishing a chemistry with Tyson and promoting his aggressive instincts.

 

Atleast we dont see that stupid constant herky jerky stuff since he left Ben.

Ben was to cautious, but he did a great job getting tyson in shape for fighting again, and was a great friend and mentor at a time Tyson needed him.

Cant fault him for that.

 

The herky jerky stuff was good feinting he just never capitalized off it like he should when his opponents rhythm gets upset. He was just trying to draw Wilder on, Wilder didn't take the bait too often.

Can't ignore the fact fury in the 1st wilder bout was making sure his energy reserves would be ok for the late fight, it was almost an unknown. He lowered the pace of the fight which he is very good at against people who stick to outboxing against him like Wilder, Wlad etc. Something Floyd was an expert at.

His feet still weren't up the speed either in the 1st bout, relying on phenomenal head and body movement to evade Wilder. He could have maybe relied more on his feet but again boxing can be all about energy preservation. Fury fought extraordinary well. He picked his spots and paced himself perfectly.

Roach had the veteran eye to see Fury could have got on Wilder more often...but he was never going to be able to physically bully him like he could in the 2nd and 3rd bout.

 

I think ben would have legthened his career and won him fights 2 and 3 just not in nearly as entertaining fashion. Sugar will shorten his career but he,ll make the candle burn much brighter. I think he needs to mix it up...sometimes appraoch fights on the backfoot...other times a similar approach to wilder 2 and 3...otherwise at some point he,ll end up paying the price.

 

Lol! I thought Davison Fury was another brother or cousin.

I honestly think Fury is just a much better fighter and could have won with a folding chair as his trainer, but Sugar Hill deserves credit for engineering the massacre.

 

Yes. He did the ame thing to Cunningham. He's used that style before.