Joe Frazier vs Tua & Holyfield

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  1. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    IMO Frazier would have whupped Tua any day in the week, twice on sunday.
    Unless if he walked into a bomb early.......
    think it would be a good match up & a competitive fight. I think Joe’s legendary work rate, output, superior speed, skills, defenses and especially his MUCH greater mental toughness gets the job done late on.
    But with Tua did have a stronger chin a vicious left hook, so I would not write The Tuaman off…

    I think Holyfield stays on the outside in the early rounds, tries to keep joe off of him, but then Frazier cut the ring off and force him to fight a war. Holyfield, who never minded an "inside slugfests" would meet Joe punch for punch and it would be a truly all time battle.
    Holyfield was, according to foreman, a better fighter than Joe skills wise.
    HOWEVER, Formean also stated Joe was tougher.
    I will also add that Joe was better conditioned and a harder puncher. Due to his better stamina, i think smokin' joe would have had the strength advantage as well.
    Holyfield was probably faster with a better chin, so this would be anything but an easy fight for joe.
    In overral, i would favor Joe to wins this fight by a hard fought decision........But lord what a war this would be!!
     
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  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruddock has next to no chance of beating peak Frazier.
     
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  3. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If I had to bet money, I'd pick Frazier over Holyfield by decision but it would be a helluva fight. Tua, I'm not so sure about, they are both kinda similar, and I think it would be great while it lasted but if Bonavena could floor Frazier, then Tua definitely could, so I'd put my money on the Tuaman.
     
  4. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    Holyfield vs Frazier would be a war to death. This one could surpass the FOTC.

    What else is going to happen?

    George Foreman: "You know where to find him, he comes right at ya".

    Is Smoking Joe going to shape-shift into a James Toney or what?
    David Tua is a
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    fight for Frazier.

    Two guys pounding away close each other: One is bigger, stronger, harder puncher, better chin and got a degree for the most thrown punches in a HW bout also. Terrible terrible style match for Joe. He had to show something like he did against Foreman 2. Otherwise, he got slim chance to win this.
     
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  5. red corner

    red corner Active Member banned Full Member

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    Primes. Give me Tua and Holyfield. Tua's power is too much vs Frazier who loved to trade, and Holyfield is a a much better boxer with a tough chin.
     
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  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Frazier beats both of them
     
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  7. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Regarding Holyfield, your right he may beat Joe. I think it would be fight of the year everytime. Their very much alike..realistically he wouldn't use his boxing skills. That would probably be disaster if he tried. Evander would fight Frazier.
    I like Frazier to win a decision with a knockdown. Holyfield would be content to fight inside with Smoke. Over the distance it would cost him. Evander could fight well inclose but Smokey Joe lived in there.

    It would be like quick sand for Holy.

    Frazier outworks Tua for a decision won.
     
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  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Holyfield would hook with Frazier. That would be fool's gold. Great fight though.
     
  9. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Evander wins a hook duel, he's got 2 hook hands, Frazier only 1
     
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  10. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    NOBODY is going to win a hook duel with Joe.
    You think Dwight put pressure on Evander now imagine someone bigger and heavier.
    A shot Dokes was giving it to Holyfield and landing alot.
     
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  11. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good joke. Plenty beat him in a hook duel: Tyson, Bowe, Foreman, Liston, Morrison, Tua, just to name a few.

    Those men had 2 good hook hands, Frazier only has 1.
     
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  12. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Holyfield was 186lbs for Qawi and 24lbs heavier when he won the title from Douglas.
     
  13. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    TUA HAD A VERY UNDERATED RIGHT HAND TOO.
     
  14. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You call it a joke and then say in the same sentence that Morrison would beat peak Frazier...
     
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  15. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Joe Frazier was more powerful with his lefthook. He used it like a machine. Under/over over/under
    Frazier would be slipping and sliding under many of those hooks. Joe Frazier was one of the best inside heavyweights in history. Joe had two hands as well. His right was alway in the mix. He didn't score knockouts with it but not a one handed fighter.
     
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