Saunders' mobility, hand speed, and overall boxing acumen allowed him to remain competitive for 8 rounds. Calz presents similar problems, only with considerablely more offensive output and superb stamina/conditioning. Calz 115-113.
Clenelo stands no chance even on his PEDs. He ain't beating Super Joe on points (legitimately) and he sure as hell ain't knocking him out either. He'd have to pray he was fighting the injury-ravaged little to zero sparring Joe and even then he'd still lose. Too fast of hand and foot, too skillful, too athletic, too busy and too tough.
People like to underate calzaghe..who did he fight yada yada but fact is he's an absolute head to head nightmare... adaptable,stamina to burn,fast hands,good footwork,throws in combination,hard to hurt,quick to recover, deceptive power,southpaw, good jab, good off front foot or back foot..... If you could avoid him you would....and many elites did ...but it's easier to say...Joe ducked them...when truth is it's a little of both
Lol. Just absolutely no. You're now atop the p4p ridiculous poster awards. Keep going son, add some posts about Floyd being better than SRR and you'll reach ATG status.
Canelo is a better counter puncher than anyone Calzaghe ever fought. If Roy and Bhop caught Zags with a counter that dropped him early, a prime Canelo could definitely do the same. Plus Canelo has great head movement and defense, and isnt the "brittish assasin" for no reason! I dont get how people are acting like Canelo would have no chance!
With respect, we're not talking about those divisions... We're talking about 168, it's even there in the title. Now sure, Canelo's achieved a lot and his resume is pretty impressive, but we're also talking about an ATG at the weight in question, here Has Canelo fought anyone at 168 that's close to Calzaghe level? No. Bear in mind we're talking a 3" height advantage and near enough 3" reach advantage to Joe, too... And for an adaptable fighter, that's very useful indeed. Canelo's very good, but I'm not convinced he has the beating of Calzaghe.
Good points. Look at Canelo's resume @168:- Fielding Smith Yildirim Saunders None of those four would beat Kessler, nor the Robin Reid that pushed Zags hard, and I wouldn't favour them against Eubank, Bika, Brewer or Mitchell either. So it's down to H2H (unless folks want to read way too much into Canelo beating a shot Kovalev). If I was going to design a nightmare style match up for Canelo, it would not be far of Calzaghe:- Angles, Fast feet, constant movement Swarmer / volume Southpaw Stamina for days
Shutup herol.. Canelo probably weighs the same amount naturally as Calzaghe did anyway so spare us the 4 division crap.. he's probably weighed about 185 for years during down time .. i've no doubt also that had Calzaghe turned pro as young as Canelo did he would've won titles in other weights also..
Don't take it personally, Joe was good, but this is different class. I am sorry you have to react badly when shown the difference.
they both faced an opponent of the same calibre, and won, at supermiddle. Beating Plant will surpass Joe's feats at 168, but itstrue we have to wait for the result (or have I missed the fight?). Its certainly very close, I will give you that.
No, it won't... Plant is B-grade at best, BJS was a better fighter and more likely to seriously test Alvarez than Plant. And either way, it's still not matching up with Calzaghe's 168 resume. Nor does it make Canelo an obvious H2H winner either, I just don't see it.