WBC authorizes Fury vs Whyte in 2022

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  1. Benladdie3000

    Benladdie3000 Member banned Full Member

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    Thisbfigt won't happen because fury will pull out for some reason
     
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  2. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    So? That doesn't put him on par with Chisora, who has 11 losses, two coming to Whyte and with his best win against Tickling Takam.

    Whyte has beaten a whole host of puddings who are better than Tickling Takam, and he's several years younger.

    It's a stupid comparison and only one somebody who doesn't like Whyte would make.
     
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  3. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    Whyte will be beleaguered in the promotional war of words and his humiliation completed in the ring.


    In fairness, Whyte has received a great deal more protection throughout his career than Chisora ever has.

    As for Whyte's strongest wins, we're pretty much talking about shopworn Helenius and shopworn Wach, a narrow victory over Parker (who had him in all kinds of trouble late) and Rivas. Chisora was outright robbed of a victory against an undefeated Helenius, twice fought on even terms with Whyte (and would've likely finished the rematch on the end of another controversial decision loss instead of a KO, if the referee hadn't put him at the disadvantage of needing to chase lost points) and was thought by many observers to have done enough to earn a win in a close contest with Parker.

    When you look past the paper, it's not unreasonable to say that Whyte and Chisora are about the same level.
     
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  4. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    The truth is somewhere in between imo. If the politics are equal and Chisora, Parker and Whyte all fight each other, there isn't much to split them. Parker is the most durable, the fastest and has the best engine, Chisora and Whyte are much more aggressive and tenacious, Whyte has the most length, power and the best punch selection but the weakest chin by a distance.

    Chisora has faced the strongest competition over the longest period of time and has been least protected: had Parker and Whyte fought Fury x2, Vitali, Haye, Usyk and even some of the lesser opponents: Pulev, Kabayel, Helenius in Finland, Price (for Whyte) under the same circumstances, they would have had a similar number of losses to Chisora.

    Whyte is probably the most dangerous for better opponents due to his superior length, power and offensive skills. Chisora is 2nd due to his aggression over Parker, better power than Parker and toughness over Whyte. Parker is the least dangerous and the least impressive win (at least at home) because he seriously lacks aggression, tenacity and can't crack an egg: if he doesn't have home/A-side advantage then he'll consistently lose against B/C level opponents.
     
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  5. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There you have it, folks.
     
  6. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The whole point of a boxing match is to win, no matter how close it is. Chisora's best win is a bout in which he was being spanked, is that one that we are going to asterisk? Thought not.

    Chisora did not beat Whyte in the first bout. Outright robbery tells me you are talking **** and are biased. He was sparked out in the second.

    Whyte's 2 wins of Chisora himself, Helenius, Rivas, Povetkin, Paint Dry Parker, Wach, Browne are superior to one win over Takam. His 2 losses is superior to Chisora's 11.

    It's literally not even close, and after Whyte is battered by Fury, I'm sure he'll have another 2 or 3 wins that are also better than anything Chisora has done, all the while having about a third of the losses on his record (by the time their careers are up).
     
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  7. On The Money

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  8. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

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    He's still here dont you worry about that, the shame is he doesn't stand tall and own it, instead of hiding behind an alt.
     
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  9. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Fury will be motivated for this fight,if not at the start he will be once Whyte starts mouthing off . Fury needs a fight anyway while he waits for Usyk v Joshua winner .
     
  10. navigator

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    Yeah, but we're talking about decisions that could've easily been reversed (Whyte-Parker, Parker-Chisora) if Chisora was the protected commodity and Whyte was the guy who started out with Frank and had a bunch of prior L's that included a robbery on the road and testing himself against the likes of Vitali Klitschko and David Haye relatively early into his pro career.

    Chisora's been granted opportunities. In that sense, he isn't the most hard done-by fighter. But he's been granted them because he's useful for promoters. He'll always come to fight when the opponent has enough of a pull to get him going, but he lacks the power to make him too much of a risk. If you look at his history, he has never gotten the benefit of the doubt in a close fight. On the contrary, he's even been unfortunate enough to find himself on the wrong end of a decision in a fight he clearly won.


    I didn't even mention the Takam bout in Chisora's defense. As you alluded, though, he won it conclusively without any circumstantial assistance (he had to be a ways behind on points prior to knocking Takam out, despite the bout being generally competitive).


    If you revisit my post, you'll see you've gotten your wires crossed. I stated that he fought on even terms with Whyte both times (and that the late KO in the rematch had much to do with being disadvantaged by some very questionable officiating, which I am not alone in having noted). The "outright robbed" remark pertained to Chisora's bout with Helenius.

    For the record, I do think Chisora won a close fight with Whyte the first time around. But you could score it even or stretch to a Whyte victory.

    Full disclosure, I do not like Dillian Whyte. I have established a track record, however, of not allowing my negative opinion of a fighter's personality to interfere with my analysis of his fighting virtue and fighting character.

    It's strange that you'd get fired up over a fairly inconsequential difference of opinion re. Whyte. We tend to see eye to eye on much more. It's my habit to agreeably disagree with posters I consider to be generally astute. I'm not saying you're a ****ing idiot or talking **** or even biased, I just disagree with you.


    If we're citing opposition like 2018 Browne and a horribly deteriorated Povetkin, we might as well throw in Chisora's fringe scalps to puff him up some. I didn't even mention the likes of Scott and Johnson, because I figured we were talking about particularly notable opposition. I actually thought I was doing Whyte a favor by stretching that definition to include a 2019 Wach, let alone a strongman clown like Browne.


    As I said, it gets much closer when you look past the paper.

    You're entitled to your opinion, I just don't share it.


    That statement does strike me as a hyperbolic one, but whatever.
     
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  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Yes fury would duck Whyte who is on paper about as tough a fight as Christian Hammer.
     
  12. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    And rightly so.

    In recent weeks Whyte has boosted the sales of plum duff and cowardly cowardly custard and following his recent media appearances gooseberry fool figures are through the roof. He'd get their man of the year outright if Eddie Hearn wasn't doing such a good job pushing Eton mess.
     
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  13. snake33

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    Will Fury get credit for fighting the guy that Wilder ducked ? Who knows.
    Fury needs to stay focused every fight or he should retire.
     
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  14. Finkel

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    If when you say lobbying you actually mean starting litigation against, then you are probably correct.
     
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  15. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm sure the Fury fan boys writ large on here will be singing Whyte's praises if and when Fury beats him.