Loma would do well vs prime Floyd

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  1. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    I think Floyd stops him way to sharp. Papachenko throws in the towel and says “Nomaschenko” after the 5th knockdown and the late Uncle Roger Mayweather gloats “That’s what I’m talking about. You all don’t know **** about boxing thinking that midget could beat my nephew”.
     
  2. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Go clean your shorts jizzmaster.... :lol:
     
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It's called fighting for legacy, not money or fame

    Loma is one of the few legacy fighters in the game

    He's willing to take risks coming straight out of the gates like very few others

    True fans respect that

    It's not a weak argument at all. Loma was stitched up royally

    When you outland your opponent 164 to 142 and over a third of your opponents total punch connects, at least 50 or 60 punches no exaggeration, are illegal blows bellow the belt line and the corrupt POS ref conveniently chooses to ignore all of them and refuses to deduct points, let alone DQ them, and people count those illegal blows as legal scoring shots it's corruption of the highest order and the fact that you and many others cite that 'loss'' in just his second pro fight and ignore the mountains of context to discredit Loma says it all
     
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  4. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog My name is Buck and I'm here to... Full Member

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    Whatever advantages Lomachenko might have (if any
    Whatever advantages Lomachenko might have (if any), won't be enough to overcome the size/length difference. The margins are too small.
     
  5. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Teo started well and Loma took to long to get going.
    Floyd was better than the people he faced buyt he did avoid fighters with certain attributes. He caertainly avoided slick and taller fighters were his reach advantage would be slightly negated.
    The losing you 0 is a recent thing in boxing due to belts being fractured and double the divisions allowing a fighter to tactically avoid certain fighters. The old school had no choice and if you have 200 pro fights guess what? you will lose a percentage. That is just reality there is no such thing as the perfect boxer you fight long enough you will lose.
    What about Joe Calzaghe or Rocky Marciano? Well both men fought everyone in there eras. For Joe his best fights were towards the end of his career and for Rocky his best fights were against some older masters but nobody would say there resume's were the deepest and it isn't either of their faults.
    Floyd on the other hand took a leaf out of SRL's book tactically picking names going up in weight or prime fighters after already losing or in the case of Pac waiting untill a few more losses were on the record and after he had slowed down some.
    To conclude..







    “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”
     
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  6. Rumsfeld

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    Sounds about right to me.
     
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  7. AdamT

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    With mayweathers size, reach and defence?

    He would win a comfortable decision

    Loma would give manny fits
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Lomo doesnt have his way and toy with folks that are bigger and better than him. Walking into left hooks and getting chopped with straight rights all day. Hes not going to make Floyd pay if Floyd whiffs, either. And thats his problem even if you think he could make that happen more than most have managed.
     
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  9. AdamT

    AdamT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The reach alone is too much. Loma doesn't have the ferocity of Pacquiao and to be honest Manny had F**k all for Floyd either
     
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  10. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    When you are a professional you fight for money. The legacy and dame will come. I am not discrediting Loma just saying he lost to Salido because he did lose. You can argue it was ill advised to fight him in his 2nd fight as a pro but that’s on Loma and his team for their stupidity. Loma was not stitched he and his team stitched themselves up. Do you know the story about the great Eddie Futch Papa Smurf when he realised after 11 pro fights that Riddick Bowe could beat Evander Holyfield but would not make the match because Bowe was still developing and not yet ready for all the other top contenders. He waited that is smart management by a master trainer not throwing your guy to the dogs when he is not ready or equipped.
     
  11. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Well Joe did not fight peak Hopkins or RJJ did he or peak Eubank but Super Joe was really good though he went life and death with Robin Reid. Carl Froch maintains Calzaghe avoided him. Not sure Calzaghe and Marciano fought everyone but both lads of Italian heritage could fight and were unbeaten for a reason like Floyd and Andre Ward.

    When I look at Floyd’s record he fought everyone over his distinguished career. Glad he did not fight Margarito the cheat Margacheato though he beat up the guy who destroyed Margacheato in Sugar Shane Mosley ditto Tyzu and Hatton.
     
  12. Serge

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    So if you believe that don't use that 'loss' to try and discredit his ability as a fighter or act like it has any relevance in hypothetical match ups.

    When debating hypothetical match ups you pit the best version of fighters against each other not the best version of one vs a one fight novice who'd never been past five rounds before and who was facing a vastly more experienced reigning world champion who weighed over two divisions more than them.

    And Loma didn't lose he was stitched up

    And you're wrong. He fights for legacy
     
  13. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    You really should stop dissembling. I called Loma a great fighter. What don’t you understand about calling him a great fight don’t you get. I know you love him as is your right too. I am merely pointing out that Floyd is better than him and it’s not close actually. The best version of Floyd beats the best version of Loma that is what I am basing it on. His losses and his wins are facts ditto Floyd’s win and losses if he had any would be facts to analyse. Because it’s Loma you don’t like. I was disappointed when my countryman AJ lost to Usyk but I accepted and rightly hailed Usyk as the better boxer and better man on the night. He did what Loma could not against Lopez overcoming any adversity. I have rightly put Usyk your hero at the top of the pound for pound ratings even though AJ, Spence and Canelo are my guys. Apply some objectivity you know full well Floyd is better than Loma so admit it.
     
  14. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I did qualify they fought who they could Joe had to move upto LH to fight Roy and Bernard who would go onto have a good bit of succes after that fight. Roy was certainly passed prime but so was Joe. Froch was always a child over Joe and Eubank was a late replacent for Collins who clearly did not want that smoke. Kessler was his best win at SMW who would years later beat Froch in there first fight.
    Floyd fought most of his era would like to have seen him in against Margorito and Paul Williams which I think may have been a stylistic problem for him he also retired whilst the top dogs fought each other bringing losses for some of them.
    So not so clear cut for us that followed in real time.
     
  15. Serge

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    :lol: You made excuses for AJ loss, blamed it on his trainer and getting the tactics wrong even though AJ's statement 48 hours before the fight completely contradicted his excuses

    And you think Loma is so great you picked Rigo to beat him and Twink to KO him

    Just like how you think so highly of Taylor but pick Twink to KO him too

    You rank Azumah Nelson above Pep and Greb even though both are consensus top 10 ATGs, most historians have Greb top 3, and The Ring has Pep #6, Greb #7 and Nelson #65 and there is literally zero argument for ranking Nelson anywhere near them, let alone higher than them. GTFOH, Mr.''Objectivity'' :facepalm:
     
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