If Usyk Beat AJ Again And Then Beats Fury Is He The Greatest Boxer Of All Time?

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  1. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For classicists nothing he could do would be enough.
     
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  2. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. Full Member

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    A fighter who doesnt like to take on his face neither a jab during 12 rounds and who can destroy any guard of any his opponent as it was a play for kids if beats Bodybuilder again and Fury twice deserves at least to enter the top 5 HWs ever imo.
     
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  3. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    he can start by being the HW champion of the world 11 years in a row, like wlad did. Then we can start talking.

    People call Aj "the body builder" for a reason, even though they should call him "the no heart man". And Fat Andy knocked him the hell out for a reason as well. And as others have said fury is nothing but the one-eyed man in blind-men's land.

    You can bump this thread in 11 years and if ussyk still undefeated champion we can start a serious conversation.
     
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  4. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wladimir did and he still doesn't get enough recognition from classicists.
    I doubt I will since your opinion really doesn't matter.
     
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  5. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well Usyk would certainly be in conversation for top 10-20 p4p ATG
     
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  6. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Again, that’s not enough, just because Ali rubber stamps it, that was his idol. Yes he’s great, but to just give it him whilst others have achieved more is just weird. It’s nobody can ever beat 60’s Ali, it’s just not true. There are fighters since the 60’s Ali could never beat but he just gets the green light on every mythical match up. Some think it’s an insult to match Ali with Usyk when in actual fact he’s likely the best fighter he would’ve fought, most complete anyway
     
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  7. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Manny pac if you want to list achievements, because that’s how greatness is measured, Mayweather also. Again it’s different times, perhaps SRR could’ve achieved more if he was born later with more weights now an titles than the two I mentioned but it’s obvious that fighters have improved
     
  8. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury has beaten only 2 opponents in the top 10
     
  9. GlassJoe

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    It's an unbelievably impossible task for him (or anyone else) to accomplish. This standard is typically only applied to Eastern Europeans. For some reason. One can only wonder what the reason is.
     
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  10. GlassJoe

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    Also I would add that Lennox Lewis Wladimar Klischko were almost entirely different fighters in their later careers, changing their entire approach and techniques.
     
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I wouldn't care one iota if Usyk were to call it a day right now. He's already clocked the game by winning Olympic gold, World Amateur gold, European gold, unifying the CW division, and a deep one at that, in just 15 fights, and then moving up to HW and winning three of the four belts in just 19 fights in total, and every single one of his medals and world titles were won on the road the hard way or in his opponent's backyards the even harder way and all achieved with zero favoritism, advantage, and the deck-stacking which is synonymous with so many other fighters, including some of the greats, and all via the application of clean boxing and winning fair and square.

    He didn't even take the sport until he was 15 and in addition to him never having been hurt on the battlefield despite facing many adversaries with serious firepower, demonstrating his mastery over foes with a variety of different styles, he defeated all these armies on their turf or on the road.

    Usyk truly is love. He is biblical. He is a living, breathing deity and the closest thing we have to a current day 21st century messiah. Enjoy him while we have him guys Usyk is one of the special human beings.

    I'd like to see him slay AJ once again, and as much as I love Fury, then harvest my gypsy brethren's soul for all the marbles and then sail off into the sunset and call it a day.
     
  12. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Don't do that. Ekaterina will be jealous.
    :p
     
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  13. Devon

    Devon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There ain’t no way he stops Fury, Usyk will have to do what he used to do to opponents at crusierweight and that is work harder than he wants to work, there is no way Usyk stops Fury because Fury is 6 inches taller, Usyk won’t be able to land more than 2 punches at a time unless Fury covered up for whatever reason, it’s impossible to land combinations on someone who’s 6 inches taller and is using their reach
     
  14. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    It matters when you come here and create a post asking me for my opinion. It seems you are not the smartest guy in your neighbourhood, it's a pity.
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: