Personally, I'm backing Fury on this potential fight. However, here are three strong reasons to make this fight from Fury's perspective: 1) Legacy - Whyte would be the third best name on Fury's resume: WBC interim, PBO#4, TBRB#4, Ring#5. He's been in the Ring Rankings for 241 weeks and counting. 2) Money - both are PPV fighters in their own right. This fight sells, and even if Fury gives a larger split then he would like against Whyte, he will still rake it in. 3) The Fans - even if we believe Whyte will lose to Fury, Whyte has generally been in very entertaining fights. And outside the ring, the pressers will definitely be a thing to behold. Which also builds hype and supports point (2). So I don't understand why anyone would be trying to nix the idea of this fight. To Fury fans, why are some of you so against your boy taking an easy fight against an opponent that improves his legacy? Why aren't you pushing for this fight?
In a perfect world Fury would claim the scalps of Whyte, Usyk and AJ and possibly Ruiz. Then call it a career and enjoy his family.
Fury has said again and again, he does not care about legacy. As for the money, Whyte is demanding 45%, and is not a big enough draw so that gives Fury enough one in the pocket. Whyte has made 4 million once, 1.5 a couple of times, and the rest of his fights are a million and under. He is not a big draw. As for the fans, I don't think most care if it is Whyte of Joyce. For my part, I think Whyte has earned it and I want to see it, but Whyte has to come down in this expectations, or Fury will move on, and 85% of the boxing community won't care.
I’m so baffled. I’m out here living in the twilight zone listening to all these Fury apologetics and excuses for goodness sakes. ITS DILLIAN WHYTE!! Who else outside of Usyk or AJ are you going to bloody fight without it looking like a straight blatant duck. His the interim champ. He is highly ranked by the orgs. He’s been number WBC contender for a long as time. He’s better competition and more entertaining than Pianeta, Wallin , Kabayel. He is more of a PPV draw than the aforementioned guys outside Usyk and AJ. He has KO power more than Kabayel or Wallin. I think this forum is just trolling, can’t be serious. Because all the boxing trainers, professional boxers, Fury, Furys DAD, Whytes ENEMIES, JOE EFFING JOYCE has said WHYTE DESERVES IT THE MOST. Forget chin check, this forum needs a brain check. Why we even need to write this out is beyond me.
I know he says he doesn't care about legacy, but that is why the monetary case is a strong one too. I agree 45% is optimistic (but referencing a potential split from WBC rules), but at the same time Fury was saying 80-20 (which is crazy too). Anyway that's going to be Whyte's starting point for negotiations. Whyte made £4m against Povetkin 1. Comparatively, Wilder made $4m in the first Fury fight. i.e. Whyte is a higher earner now, than Wilder was back then. So that shouldn't be a reason not to make this fight, Whyte is obviously a good draw if he made more money fighting Povetkin the first time than Wilder did fighting Fury. I would say If 85% don't care, they aren't really wanting to see the best fight the best. And I question what they actually want to see. Whyte is a top 5 fighter. If we don't want to see the supposed number 1 fight a guy who is top 4/5. What are we doing? But I appreciate you think Whyte deserves his shot.
Honestly, its more fruitful for a discussion listing out the reasons why Fury wouldn’t fight Whyte outside of Usyk or AJ.
1. Fury won't gain much legacy-wise from beating the guy who got sparked cold by a shot 41 year old Povetkin and has gone life and death with the likes of Chisora x2, Parker and Rivas. There are better candidates. 2. I don't care how much money Fury makes and he has a massive amount of money already. 3. The press conferences would be fun and it would be entertaining to see Whyte bashed up, however... 1. Many of us don't like Whyte. We find it amusing to see him overlooked indefinitely and don't want him to get a title shot or a career high payday. This overrides the entertainment value of Fury-Whyte.
There aren't better candidates though. That's the whole problem with your stance on Whyte. Joshua and Usyk are tied up. Whyte would be the third best name on Fury's ledger at this point. Who is he going to fight that is a better opponent than Whyte in the next 6 months? Edit: regarding not wanting to see Whyte fight for a title. That is basically taking the position that you prefer trolling Whyte than seeing the best fight the best. Okay... Not the position I would take, but you are entitled to do as you wish
Future Olympic gold medalist and 13-0 Joe Joyce, or anyone with more potential for future success than Whyte. Wallin was unknown but undefeated and in his 20's; he could go on to enhance Fury's legacy more than a win over Whyte, who is much older, more worn and compromised by losses and gifts over B/C level fighters. Whyte also won't know when to quit and will lose plenty more before he retires, reducing the potential value of the win further. Even Kabayel is undefeated (21-0) in his 20's, fresh and beat Chisora by a more comfortable margin than Whyte. It would also be good for Fury to make a fight like this just to enjoy the reaction from Whyte and his fans.
Most people don't give Mike Tyson much credit for his win over Tyrrell Biggs. Nor Wilder for his win over Harrison. So given he is currently a Silver medalist I don't think that matters much. And whilst I back Joyce in most of his fights. Right now he has done a lot less than Whyte in the pro ranks. And the early stoppage over Takam doesn't help either. Personally I don't think Joyce will win a title, same as Whyte. And right now, Joyce is ranked below Whyte across the board, has a worse resume, and isn't a PPV fighter in his own right. Joyce? Whilst I wouldn't complain, he does less for Fury than Whyte at this time. I hope he gets a title shot in the near future, as at 36 he's not getting any younger. But he needs to add some Live bodies to his resume. So far his best win was at British level, prospect versus prospect against Dubois. Btw, I would also welcome a future fight between Joyce and Whyte. PBO#7, TBRB#6, Ring#9 (3 weeks) Wallin, that's a joke right? Wallin has literally done nothing beyond beat a washed Breazeale. No one wants to see a rematch at this point. Even if I think he deserves credit for his performance against Fury. PBO#17, TBRB #unranked, Ring #unranked Kabayel, had been off the radar for some time now. I think it's very difficult to predict his current level. But he is a better shout than Wallin. The trouble is, Fury will not get credit for that win, Kabayel's last fight was again Kevin Johnson. How they going to spin that? PBO #10, TBRB #unranked, Ring #unranked Anyone else?
Fury isn't delaying this fight. Whyte is a bit though, with the WBC arbitration and pay demands, and has a record of turning down title shots. It's an okay fight. I doubt Fury is against the idea of it at all. Easy work. Most boxing fans don't care much either way. It's an okay fight. It's not a 'must happen' kind of fight. Clearly it adds nothing to Fury's legacy but it should be a decent payday.
WBC & Whyte need to settle their beef Fight isn't happening if Whyte continues litigation. He has to drop it and hope Fury's team give him the shot...and Eddie gives the right split. easier said than done. 45% is laughable. 40% is the best he is getting. Hell 35% is fair. Fury can just go and fight joe shmo who will probably do better than Whyte! and earn just as much. Fury should give Wallin his rematch...it's a better fight, just not what casuals care for.
Pretty sure Fury has taken every different stance possible on this issue at some point. Didn't he claim he donated his entire purse from the first Wilder fight?
An interviewer asked about money and Fury said he doesn't care and jokingly said he'd donate his entire purse and I quote "I'd rather give it all to charity sarcasticly" to exacerbate that point...then the media ran with it (Max Kellerman) and Fury didn't really deal with it correctly by correcting them claiming that he did something that he didn't. He just said "no comment" which gives them room to continue the story. If you give any credibility anything the media writes then yeah it looks like Fury "lied" about something when really it just got spun incorrectly, which is typical. Fury's sarcasm is often overlooked by American media also they are proper suckers. In theory Fury could have donated his entire purse he has failed to say that he did or did not but given the original statement was sarcasm I'd presume that he hasn't. Throwing money at a problem is just stupidity.
Yes correct he did claim that. He consistently reiterates how he cares less for the money having been brought up in a wealthy family. So why he would be crying over 5% purse split is beyond me. Very inconsistent person, just like his followers on here with their apologetics for Fury but no other fighter.
