My thoughts on Lopez-Kambosos

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  1. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Round 1 was a 10-8 round for Kambosos. Anything other than that is trying desperatly to give Lopez extra points.
     
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  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    thank you esb brain trust for the valuable contributions. should have taken a stab at my grammar while tying together strawmen. i explained my reasoning and what i saw happening. a lot more concretely than ive seen any of you attempt.
     
  3. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    My thoughts are in relation to how much the Lopez's have learned in the last year.
    Snr saying how DAZN is to blame for the loss.
    More powerful enemies for Teo.
    Snr is destroying his son's career....not to mention his insane between rounds 'advice'.
     
  4. JDub

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    Yep! I thought Lopez was winning the first round big before the KD, almost dominating it when watching live. When I went back and watched it again, he was not dominating it at all, he was missing wildly and fighting sloppy, and then got caught by a great shot and put on his ass.

    It was a clear 10-8 for Kambosos for me after re-watching. Lopez was probably just winning the round until he got KD, but he did get KD and it was a great shot, that swung the round for me to Kambosos then -1 for the KD for Lopez. 10-8.

    People giving anything else, like you say are just searching desperately for ways to give Lopez extra points. There was no way he was dominating that first round enough to negate a KD.
     
  5. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Too good to be true.24 years old already undisputed. It is too good to be true.

    This kid seems to be listening to his dad thinking they are just special. All they have to do is show up and KO every opponent. I got this kid wrong and overrated. He's gotten big headed and just needs to humble himself. With a father like that well I doubt it'll happen. But sometimes you have to hit the rock bottom to get back up.

    As far as the fight. He has bad habits of leaving his hands down his waist. Might want to pick it up or dart in and out. Don't stay flat footed like that with your hands down by the side. Damn, I dunno. The kid will get caught again next fight if he continues this mistakes.

    He needs to respect his opponents. They have two hands and can punch back as well. This kid right here. Delusional AF now. He think he won. You outa ya mind boy!!
     
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  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    his mistakes were not mistakes someone makes at this level. they were basic. like his guard, which you mention, thats not something that you bring in as part of a gameplan, its something youre reminded in between rds not to do. cause you prepared differently. and the guy was growing roots he was so flatfooted. just horrible work all the way around. teo better learn what separates the talented from the elite, cause taylor will stomp this teo into a stain on the canvas, if thats where hes pointing himself.
    if he is indeed killing himself to make weight, then that would explain him hitting a wall around the 4th or 5th rd. he would then be much stronger at 140. but taylor would still dismantle him technically. he has the speed, the power, the chin and the legs to be better, he just needs a competent teacher to show him how to best put all that together.
     
  7. Hitmanstyle

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    I scored it for Lopez (seems like I’m the only one of this forum that did lol). It was close though so I don’t have a problem with either guy winning.

    My take on the fight though was that Teo had a god awful game plan and fought very out of character.

    Teo only had 16 fights coming into last night. And he’s not like one of those Eastern Europeans that has 300+ amateur fights so is a seasoned vet at 10+ pro fights. He’s still a boxing neophyte.

    Before this fight I always looked at Teo as a world class counter puncher with some truly phenomenal technique in some respects. But he’s not seasoned that much. And most importantly I don’t see him as a seasoned enough fighter to be a leaded puncher against world class fighters. He just hasn’t had enough time in the pros to know how to set up his punch’s and land as a lead puncher.

    Last night he was trying to be the lead puncher against a guy with more top level experience then himself. It was a big mistake. Not to mention how reckless he was fighting. He gazed himself too so when he finally got his head screwed on straight he was to fatigued to take over the fight. I always saw him as the type of fighter that was going to need 3-4 more fights at world level to be seasoned enough to fight the type of fight he fought last night.

    He made some good adjustments in the fight. I gave him 3 of the first four rounds - not based off being a better boxer but simply based off over exerting himself and throwing the kitchen sink against his opponent with little regard for the energy he was expending it the punches coming back at him. I gave him 3 of the last 4 rounds based off actually being the better boxer and landing the more affective punches.

    Bottom line for me is that Teo came into the fight A little inexperienced and fighting the wrong fight and he ended the fight a better fighter then he started the fight. I hope he’s able to mentally recover from this loss and continue to develop because he’s definitely talented and definitely has a high ceiling and it would be a shame to see that wasted.
     
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  8. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    yes, its all fixable, but thats a best case scenario. lots of forces fighting against the best case scenario. starting in his own home.
     
  9. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    ‘Seasoned veteran’ because of your amateur career ? Nah, pros an AM’s are totally different
     
  10. PIPO23

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    The thing about the Philly shell defense it's a defensive counter puncher style.

    That needs that certain temperament to work.Teo is no defensive fighter or counter puncher.He is born of a different cloth. if you can remain defensively responsible every second of the round. But he is not because he likes to trade and come forward. But to me his hands has to come up. If you watch Floyd he doesn't drop his hands like that. Floyd does a lot of jabs, side steps, lend back, head movement. High guard. He mixes it up gives opponents different looks. Teo just using the hands down poor immitation of Floyds shoulder scroll defense. It's too predictable. You know his hands is going to be down and you when what time to BANG in a right hand over the top.

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  11. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd does not jab much, especially against orthodox fighters. He leads with his left hook or straight right hand.
     
  12. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Wasnt sure basic boxing concepts had to be explained but here goes...

    In boxing, when a fighter wins the round without a knockdown it's scored 10-9. When a boxer is winning a round but gets knocked down the round is scored 10-8 against the fighter who got knocked down even though he was winning.

    Lopez landed nineteen punches in round one to Kambosos ten.

    Nineteen to ten is not a master class worthy of a 10-8 round in Lopez favor that would then be even after Kambosos knocked him down. You scored the round even, despite it being close in punches landed with a knockdown. This goes against decades of boxing scoring, history and against common sense.

    Most people here don't explain things because you become hostile and immediately attack the person, rather than debate their argument. Comments like "brain trust" are simply you lashing out rather than using the forum to engage.
     
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  13. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Disagree w/ round 1 scoring, but good post Bandy
     
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  14. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good point about him only having 16 fights, and I think it showed. After trying to KO him and failing he had this,," what do I do now ," look on his face and his corner was zero help. I had it 115-111 Kambosos and Teo's face concurred with my scorecard.
     
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  15. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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