How would prime Bowe do against the heavyweight champion who will reign in 2051?

The opposing faction of the powers that be that have facilitated Riddick’s accelerated travel forward in time have sent their very own Andrew Golota to 2051 to terminate Riddick and the Baby Bowes.

Andrew will fight under the covert nick The Polish Wine Maker because he loves to crush them grapes.

By 2101, a by then 50 you bottle of the limited edition extract, Riddick Gonad’e (go-nar-dee) will be vintage and sell for a very tidy sum.

 

It depends.
Will we have grainy, barely visible incomplete footage & newspaper clippings of Bowe's vaunted skillset to judge him by in 2051?
If so then Bowe would be very favorable in toppling all comers in 2051 & possibly going undefeated.

 

I bet you are a ball of fun at parties, Mark!!

Don't change!

 

Bowe was finished as a high level fighter in 95-96. It's not 30 years it's 50+ as well.

But anyway the answer is not as good as Sonny Liston would do.

 

Harry Greb would DESTROY Andre Ward. He's in a different dimension to any middleweight and light heavyweight in the modern era. Far more skilled than Ward.

Early 1900s boxing >>>>>>> modern day boxing

 

What about all the pollution in the air and the polluted seas?

 

He'll actually be meeting really, really old, comeback number 5, George Foreman!
Who regains the title, at the grand Old age of 101!!
Quite a bit of name calling in the build up, Bowe calling George an old fart and relic
And George calling him the young pretender..

 

Interventions in training and medicine are more effective the earlier they can be delivered.

The champion of 2051 has probably already been born, so gene editing won't be much of a factor. Seems like most of the modern PEDs are just trying to capture the effectiveness of the "naive" PEDs they had in the 90s while being harder to detect. These are basically even.

In other sports, the youth leagues have been exploding in sophistication. Little league baseball was pretty big where I grew up, we played on a gravel field with a chain link fence, cheap uniforms, and shared bats/helmets. The big excitement every year was playing in another town that had lights. Now they have a little replica stadium, every kid has his own bat (so he can practice at home), uniforms with names on them, etc.

High school footballs teams have paid position coaches and medical staffs. This is where the real improvement is being made, though once these team sport athletes make it to the pros they'll have facilities that no boxing gym in the world can compete with.

Boxing is heading in the other direction. I stopped by an old gym last week and they had pictures of their students on the wall. The old pictures had a row of kids in front, the new ones are all adults. Children boxing is becoming less and less acceptable.

Well there are at least two documented gene edited babies going around (twin girls with HIV resistance in China, born to HIV+ parents and they are HIV- though not every baby born to a positive mother gets the virus so we don't know with certainty that the genes worked).

It strains credulity to believe that the only time this was attempted it was caught. It's a tough moral quandry, should these girls be allowed have children of their own?

Regardless, we're a long way away from gene editing to coming to boxing, if you can afford to do it today you'd probably target one of the non-concussion sports.

 

I agree its hard to imagine those HIV cases were one offs (those cases are what triggered my thinking on this originally). Individuals paying for designer boxing babies, yea your right probably not happening as of yet, but countries with less than ethical views on these matters who want to win Olympic medals? That I am less sure on and think that those children may have been already born or close to it.

 

Oh I didn't think about the Olympics!

I'm still not sure there's enough known about genetics to say "ok we're implanting the 2040 gold medal women's 100m sprinter right now." They might know about a couple genes for a higher metabolism but that only gets you so far, you'd really need to creates 100s or 1000s of gene edited babies to move the needle.

You'd probably get better results by just being a country people want to immigrate to and scooping up the freak athletes from around the world (the US approach, more or less).

 

Yea I'm not sure what exactly they could do, but maybe having the baby have a predisposition to higher metobalism like you said, faster twitch muscle fibers, better lung capacity, higher testosterone production?

 

Not to make this a genetics thread, but one the things that prevents some real sci-fi **** from happening is that (with some very simple exceptions) we don't know to create useful genes. We're reliant on finding mutations in nature.

If you just need a superman, search your country for a superman. If you want your baby to be one of those supermen, then that's what gene editing could help with.

PEDs are actually more powerful right now and for the foreseeable future.