Usyk would beat Prime Ali

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thank you for proving my point. Context is key. Mildenberger having almost three times as many wins as Usyk is a product of their differing eras, not quality as fighters. Usyk would beat everyone Mildenberger beat, the reverse cannot be said.
    Okay? He's only had three fights at the weight :lol:

    Usyk is a unified heavyweight champion and was a champion at CW. What belts did Mildenberger win?
    I don't.

    Usyk has accomplished far more than Mildenberger ever did, amateur and pro. Watching them shows the difference in ability to monsterous and the styles to not be similar other than them both being southpaws.
    I don't know. All I said was Usyk was far superior to Usyk and the number of wins they had as professionals is irrelevant to how good they were comparatively.
    Nor do I, I think it stands to reason Usyk would try something new Ali, or rehash an aggressive strategy like the one he used vs Huck. Not that Huck or Ali were anything alike - I don't think you could pick to fighters the same size who were further apart - but an aggressive style could work for him. Maybe Usyk tries to get Ali to lead and tries to exploit some of the flaws Jimmy Young exposed. Ultimately, I think Ali wins clearly.

    Glowacki would beat Mildenberger IMO.
     
  2. boxingfanatical

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    Theres no point in arguing with idiots that think the world is flat. Let these guys think whatever they want.
     
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  3. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It doesn't have to be. Ali just has to do what he does best. Staying out of range while circling, feinting and jabbing.
     
  4. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And score ****-all in punches.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't know if you guys are purposely just trying to argue. Or what. I'm not trying to trick anyone. I don't have an agenda.

    I just want to know how Usyk beats Ali from some of you guys who seem to think he can.

    Let's put it this way. If Ali was training to fight Usyk, who did Ali fight who he could use as a sparring partner to prepare?

    Mildenberger was a southpaw. Rated #1. Boxed on his toes. Moved his head a lot. Used angles. Had a hard right jab. Good handspeed.

    (Whether he's better than Usyk MEANS NOTHING. Get that out of your head. Karl is the sparring partner. Sparring partners aren't usually better than the opponent you're facing. This isn't a trick question. Karl is here for Ali to prepare for Usyk. He's here for Ali to practice throwing punches that would beat Usyk. He's here for Ali to practice moving around the ring and avoiding shots.)

    Here is a video of Ali and Karl working so Ali can prepare for Usyk. (Can you see this highlight video? Some countries can't.)

    Ali is working on moving side to side. He's working on landing straight rights. He's looking to avoid the right jab and what Karl follows up with.

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    Now, which one of Usyk's opponents would Usyk choose to prepare to fight a prime Ali's style?

    If, as you said, Usyk might try something like what he did against Huck, show clip.

    When guys spar in preparation for a big fight, they tend to want to work with boxers who have a style similar to their opponent so they can work on some things they can use in the actual fight. * You obviously know this.

    SO POST video of Usyk boxing someone with a prime Ali's style so we can see how Usyk would approach a prime Ali and BEAT him.

    Who is Usyk's sparring partner (or partners)? If it's Marco Huck, it's Marco Huck. Show what Huck is doing that is similar to what a prime Ali did and how Usyk attacked that.

    I've never had this problem with any mythical matchup before.

    How does Usyk BEAT A prime Ali? Who has he boxed against with a similar style that gives us ANY IDEA AT ALL how Usyk would do?

    Show us how Usyk would do against a prime Ali by posting clips of Usyk DOING THAT.

    It's no trap. Just support your point.
     
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  6. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Prime Ali was naturally more athletic and nimble than Usyk, so that washes whatever minor edge in footwork he may have over Ali.
     
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  7. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep
    That's what he did to setup his punches. Smart fighters know that they have 12 rounds and in those days 15 rounds to work. Stay as safe as possible and look for openings to attack.
     
  8. VOXDEI

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    I agree he's the GOAT only if he beats Fury.