Fury wants to commit suicide with Usyk

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  1. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    [url]https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/16955009/tyson-fury-anthony-joshua-step-aside-oleksandr-usyk/amp/[/url]


    It seems that Fury is serious about committing suicide, sporting speaking of course. He is putting pressure on Joshua in all media to step aside almost every day. But facts are: Fury has serious problems with the tendons of his arms accentuated in Wilder III and surely he will not be able to prepare " the fight of the century " with Usyk in three or four months (he could not with Wilder III let alone with Usyk) due to the fact that he trains intermittently. Instead Ukrainian newspapers, continuously report Usyk Is already in excellent shape, he didn't report any damage from Joshua except for a small cut on the brow bone and he trains harder than ever every day in view of March or April when he will face Joshua or Fury. Wtih all this huge training hes doing if Joshua will step aside what Usyk and his team have to do is just plan a short fighting strategy of 7-8 rounds plus two or three "B" plans to be sure to tear down the overrated giant of Manchester.

    I don't know to you but to me Usyk v Fury is a real suicide for the second.
     
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  2. Thecheckjab

    Thecheckjab Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk wins by decision. I see Usyk have more desire to win this one. Fury will be too slow at 270 lbs.
     
  3. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    BS .. if Fury is healthy he should be favourite here
     
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  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury sees weaknesses in Usyk

    AJ is not even half the fighter compared to Fury. AJ is literally only better in 1 department, raw power.

    Do not be surprised when Fury gets in the ring and literally absorbs Usyk. It will be a sad sight to see him disappear into Fury's being.

    IF Fury shows up like he did against Wallin & in the 3rd Wilder bout then it will be a hard fight. But a fresh threat means Fury should be banging on all cylinders. He wouldn't fight Usyk with a naff elbow like he did against Wilder because he knows he needs them tools.

    Hell and if AJ can land 1 concussive punch on Usyk then don't be surprised to see him beat Usyk! People are writing AJ off too fast because he's a big stiff idiot but even big stiff idiots can do things to you.
     
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    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    AJ absolutely did put miles on Usyk's odometer. More scar tissue around the eyes is bad against a guy with a long, strong jab.

    I'm tired of trying to predict what Usyk or Fury will do next, but if they do meet I predict a classic along the lines of Ali-Frazier 1 or 3. I know putting this out there will make me look stupid when it flops but I really believe it.

    Fury isn't a dancer anymore and Usyk has shown he can and will punch with a big guy. This won't be the hesitant, tactical matchup that Fury vs AJ would have been.

    We should pass the hat for AJ's step aside money because Fury vs Usyk will be much better than AJ vs Usyk (and it's not like that fight sucked either).
     
  6. Ilesey

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    I read all of your posts in Tyson Fury’s voice.
     
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    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    I read yours in James Toney's!
     
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    Usyk's 8-4/9-3 win over AJ in Britain was an ATG win but as some of us have been saying for a long time, Fury is much better than AJ.

    The idea that Usyk will stop Fury is not borne out by the facts: Usyk only stopped the worst 3 of his 7 best cruiser opponents (faded Huck, Mchunu, Bellew) and didn't stop Chisora or AJ, all of whom are easier to stop than Fury.

    Fury and Usyk have one common opponent in Chisora and the last time Fury and Chisora fought was 7+ years ago in one of the most one-sided high level fights you'll ever see, while Usyk-Chisora was by consensus an 8-4 kind of fight.

    Prior to Usyk, AJ had fought exactly 1 southpaw in his professional career (completing 1 full round against Charles Martin) Fury has fought 7 southpaws (completing 43 full rounds). Even though only one of the southpaws was high level (6'5, 240 lbs Wallin) Fury has had vastly more ring experience against them and just as importantly, far more sparring experience against them in preparation for his southpaw fights. In addition, Fury wanted to fight southpaw Chagaev in late 2012 but Chagaev didn't want the fight. Fury also has the experience of fighting a high level 6'3 cruiser mover in Cunningham, while AJ had never fought one in the pros and hadn't fought a mover since the Olympics, at least one and possibly two of which beat him. Fury has won 8 professional wars and drawn 1, AJ had won 3 wars and lost 1 prior to Usyk and Usyk has won 2 wars in the pros (Briedis, Chisora).

    Fury will not underestimate "the Ukrainian master" Usyk as he did Cunningham and Wallin and will be totally motivated to beat him, especially as Usyk has already beaten AJ.
     
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  9. McGrain

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    Fury will beat Usyk pretty easily.
     
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    Chisoras fight was a sparring sitting for Usyk. If he wanted he would have dropped both Chisora and AJ. But his main purpose in both fights was to win by decision to measure his power, his staminas and his resistance on the 12 rounds in the Hws. Said by Usyk in a interview after Joshua I.


    So...prepare...because the best of Usyk still has to come. And the funny thing Is that even Fury like Bodybuilder will lose the titles in England. USyK is the only Gladiator who would win even if all audience in the arena and outside were against him. More or less like Djokovic in tennis. War machines.
     
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    It's good mind games for Usyk to say that but I doubt it. If he could have dropped Chisora or AJ at will he would have done so because he could have potentially got robbed in Britain (the judges had it 7-5 Usyk vs Chisora and 8-4 Usyk vs AJ but he didn't know that). He didn't intend on going life and death with Briedis either and he could have easily have lost there if the Latvian judges hadn't been scrupulously honest.

    I'm looking forward to you pulling the "Usyk was past his best, the WSB version would have beaten Fury".
     
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    MAYBE he was holding back in the fight with Chisora, but this level of confidence is delusional.
     
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    He wanted to keep a low profile before Joshua dude. Smart fighter, smart team.

    There is a rule in boxing that says never reveal your potential all at once. Your next opponent would take advantage and backfire on your arsenal.
     
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  14. FrankinDallas

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    Usyk will embarrass Fury so badly that the Gyp will again retreat into drugs, booze and food.
    And he'll have more excuses for his loss than Wilder and Lopez put together. Now he has tendon problems? From what, lifting points of beer? What next? His Roman Centurion outfit squeezed his head too hard?
     
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    I suppose Usyk was playing possum against short and stocky pressure fighter Nistor too...