Julio Cesar Chavez vs Juan Manuel Marquez, Erik Morales & Marco Antonio Barrera at 130 & 135

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How well does Chavez do against them?

  1. Beats all of them

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  2. Beats 2 of them

    8.3%
  3. Beats 1 of them

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  4. Beats none of them

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  1. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    4 of the best Mexican fighters to ever do it. How does Chavez - who is seen as the #1 Mexican fighter of all time do against these 3 greats at 130 & 135?
     
  2. Duckwave

    Duckwave New Member Full Member

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    JMM's sharp counter punching will cause JCC the most issues out of the three, but I see no reason to favour any of them over him. He did the majority of things better and I would go as far to say that Morales and Barrera would struggle to even get his respect with their punching power. Rounds will be shared, but ultimately JCC is going to look fresh in the championship rounds compared to the opposition. He stops MAB, possibly stops Morales, and outpoints JMM who will likely suffer multiple knockdowns.
     
  3. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All four of those fighters are some of the greatest fighters
    in the history of the sport. Not just Mexican fighters in
    history.
    Julio Chavez is the best of the four, though not by much.
    His biggest advantage would be his natural size advantage.
    Morales, Barrera, and Marquez best fighting was done at
    featherweight and lower.
    Chavez's was Super feather and higher.
    I'd pick Chavez's relentless aggression, underrated defensive
    skills, and iron chin when shots did get through to slowly
    but surely grind the other 3 fighters down, stop all of
    them before 12 rds.
    Chavez is the better skilled and naturally bigger man.
     
  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marquez could give him a fit style wise, but I'd pay to see Morales close to his best slug it out with Chavez.
    Best match might be Chavez and Arguello at 130
     
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  5. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now Arguello vs Chavez would be the FIGHT of the century at
    superfeather/jr.lightweight.
    Arguello is one of the few fighters in history that
    could make Chavez change his typical game plan
    and attack method.
     
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  6. Duckwave

    Duckwave New Member Full Member

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    Controversial take here, but I think JCC walks through Arguello.
     
  7. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At 130 Arguello has a mean straight right, Chavez can't just walk through that.
     
  8. Duckwave

    Duckwave New Member Full Member

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    He walked through Rosario at 135lbs. Does Arguello hit significantly harder?
     
  9. Reinhardt

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    He's a far,far better fighter than Rosario and if Alexis catches a guy at the end of that punch I'd say yeah
     
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  10. Duckwave

    Duckwave New Member Full Member

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    We can both agree on the former, but are you favouring Arguello to stop Chavez?
     
  11. Showstopper97

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  12. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beats them all at both weights.
     
  13. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes he would, Nobody stops Chavez at 130.
     
  14. EJDiaZ

    EJDiaZ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chavez beats them all
     
  15. jabber74

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    Chavez beats all of them because he did everything a little bit better. Marquez might cause him some problems because he could back up and counter punch, but eventually Chavez would get to him too.

    To beat Chavez, you had to be a really quick, talented boxer with movement. Only the best of the best could pull it off. Those fighters were all very good and had skills, but not enough to beat Chavez.