Tommy Morrison vs. Joe Louis

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I think it's enough.

 

So I guess you rank Benny Leonard, Joe Gans or Henry Armstrong inside top 10?

 

Have you ever said what those changes would be? "Movement"? It doesn't mean anything, I could say that Mike Tyson would have to change his "defense" to fight in 2021 - it means nothing substantial.

 

you could say that but you would be wrong sense mike showed he could deal with mutiple styles and he really only had bad trouble when he felloff and wasnt that great anymore

and no movement means everything which is why when fighters fight different the match goes different sometimes or all the time with a certain fighter only a idiot thinks different advanced movement doesnt matter or a change in fighting style


and yea I did see changes you didnt cause you cant see good

 

He lacked modern technique for blocking hooks. How is that not outdated?

 

your picking a area that doesnt work with me buddy cross cause im talking in general his whole movement as far as upper and lower body movement

some people can say certain area like your doing as outdated that he did but I know he could be put in 80s-90s and always do good
now I dont know how good he would be but he wouldnt never be outdated he could make changes but those changes I dont think would be needed for him to do good

it is no way to put louis in the way he was and he does good in those years he has to advance his moveset and speed he has to it's no choice or he never would make pro

 

The problem is that the only things you've ever given details about being "outdated" are either too vague ("Can hit moving people") or also a really specific area ("Throws punches at angles.")

So I think you are doing the same thing I just did.

And you still haven't provided a video breakdown distinguishing what Louis does from what 90s guys did.

 

I will put up the vid you mean the stuff he didnt do that they did

 

Yes.

 

In terms of greatness, Armstrong is top 5 for me. The other two are not, but they rank between 10 and 20 all time.
In terms of H2H, Armstrong and Leonard were clearly better than their contemporaries, but still not good enough for me to have them as favorites over guys like Mayweather or Duran.

 

HELL NO !!!
Boxing started to peak around the 70's-80s, no sooner than that.

 

It took all the sophistication of Marcos Maidana and Jesus Chavez to frustrate Mayweather, and almost beat him.

Armstrong beats him.

 

Armstrong runs him over.

 

from legend magoo applies to other legends/mid careers from 70s-90s that joe would face would show his outdated movement that would be his end

 

My view of Louis has drastically improved over the years.