Between George foreman and sonny liston who would do better against today's heavyweights

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Yeah, bunch of small CWs...

 

Claw, Sonny had a reach of about 80 1/2” at the least (lowest listing I’ve seen - Leotis Martin fight). I would say his reach was prob more like 82” to 82 1/2”. Where is the 77” fig. from? Thanks.

 

They were fringe contenders, who fought exclusively to appear on and boost up other's resumes.

It was my estimation, also seeing some of his fights, I do not notice insanely long arms either, so it's just a guess.

 

Fury gives them both issues. They otherwise do real well.

 

That's complete nonsense.
His outstanding reach can be seen in almost every one of his fights.

 

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Isn't it amazing how some posters spout nonsense without
even once taking the time to do a little research on the
subject. Then they cover their mistaken assumption with
"But they were only fringe contenders".
I'll counter it with " The vast majority of world class fighters
in the heavyweight division today would be "Fringe contenders".
In certain era's.

 

Very true. Amazing how underrated solid contenders like Zora and Machen are today. Because they were cruiser sized. Meanwhile the best Hw is the former cruiser champ.

 

Some don't get skills trump size if the fighter is over 205-210 lbs and taller than 6'
And in special cases like Frazier or Tyson shorter than 6'.

 

This.

 

Foreman, because we've actually seen a version of him against modernish guys. Liston is more of an unknown quantity despite more polished looking skills.

 

I was going to knee jerk Foreman but...no.

Liston just plain had more boxing skill than Foreman, and really wasn't terribly far from George in terms of power. And his jab was probably even better. He also had the kind of reach that could compete today, for sure.

So, though I'm positive both would be champs today, I give Liston the edge here.

 

Sonny for sure .. he'd weigh in at about 235 , while not tall he had the mammoth reach of 82" or so .. he had much better skills to go with his power .. George was all strength and power ..

 

Both Liston and Foreman were far better finishers than Wilder, with WORLDS better jabs. Liston was a far better boxer overall than Wilder ever dreamed of being.

Both men stop Fury in 4.