If Canelo beats Usyk, will he be the GOAT?

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  1. Moonlight

    Moonlight Walking in the moonlight... lonely.. as always.. Full Member

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    If Canelo beats Makabu and then Usyk at cruiserweight, will he be the GOAT p4p for you?
     
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    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If this 1500 alt of the OP being banned will this forum be a better place???
     
  3. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    I've said this before on this subject....

    If my Aunt had balls; etc.
     
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    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A) the fight won't happen
    B) Canelo would not win
    C) Based on the past, I would just assume that he he on PEDs anyway,
     
  7. Luis Fernando

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    Technically, he already is. Canelo moving up multiple weight divisions above where he started, and literally walking through the best 175 pound champion of the decade in Sergey Kovalev who is also one of the most powerful punchers of all time in that division, making him look like he has the power of a little sissssy, by walking thru nearly all of Kovalev's shots and then knocking him out with significantly fewer punches than what Kovalev landed on him, is something that has never been done in the history of boxing.

    If we are to believe that Canelo's fight against Kovalev was legit, then we have to also immediately acclaim Canelo as the greatest pound for pound weight-climber of all time. Otherwise, I challenge anybody to show me a feat that is as impressive by any other 'GREAT' pound for pound boxer historically as Canelo making such a laughing stock out of Kovalev. Nor Sugar Ray Robinson, nor Mayweather, nor Pacquiao, nor anybody else for that matter, has done such a thing.

    One can't on one-hand claim Canelo's fight against Kovalev was legit, and then also claim Canelo is not the greatest. We can't have it both ways!

    So it's not just his victories, but the manner of his victories. He has proven to be astronomically superior to peons like Pacquiao and Mayweather who in comparison, appear to be pretty ordinary in front of Canelo's feats.
     
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  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    For one Tommy Hearns went from WW and schooled the number 1 in the division.

    If there were only 12 round fights, Robinson would have schooled Maxim as well over 12, another former WW.

    Mickey Walker beat numerous ranked LHW fighters, he was a former WW.

    Sam Langford was a former LW who'd beaten Joe Gans, and then knocked out Philly O'Brien who was the best LHW in the world.

    Probably others I've forgotten about who've started lighter than Canelo did, and gone onto beat the best LHW in the world, which is something Canelo did not.
     
  9. The Townsend

    The Townsend Zeus. Full Member

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    Amir Khan was up before he got laid out by Canelo. How an earth do you think Canelo will do against a 6ft3 cat?
     
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    Not sure where you got that information but Canelo was up on two of judges scorecards. He started slow as usual but by the third round he started to get the best of Kahn.
     
  11. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of this era for sure . . . All time would be up for spirited debate.
     
  12. Mike_b

    Mike_b Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Didn't usyk already say Canelo Alvarez is too small?
     
  13. IsaL

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    He said he would go back to cruiserweight for the peyy deyy.
     
  14. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    I sure hope Usyk doesn't fight him when he's too old. If that's Canelo's plan, forget about it. Current Usyk beats Canelo 99/100 times @ cruiserweight imo.
     
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  15. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The payday would have to be equal to Canelo's.

    Usyk is fighting for big money now so he won't be the B-side for anyone.