Eddie Futch's Top 4 Middleweights.

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  1. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whats odd about Eddy's rating here of middles is that he also said that Charley Burley was the greatest fighter he ever trained and that included Joe Louis and Frazier.
     
  2. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes as he said Burley was the greatest fighter he ever trained.
     
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  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I believe he's rating Burley as a Welterweight not a middleweight in that comment.

    He called him the finest/greatest all round fighter he ever saw. I have seen a quote where he called him the "best" too.

    But yeh gotta be basing that on 147 i reckon.
     
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  4. JohnThomas1

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    I'm not sure he trained him? I think he meant best full stop of anyone he saw.
     
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  5. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Early in the Monzon vs Licata title fight in Madison Square Garden on June 30 1975, Licata tried to use foot movement but Carlos began to cut off the ring, forcing Tony to exchange which was not a good idea as Licata was stopped, TKO 10.
     
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  6. Brixton Bomber

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    Great stuff, OP. Any more similar articles?
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    Yeah Monzon was a few classes above Licata and far too multi faceted.
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

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    Yes BB i will post all the other opinions from this now.
     
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    Thanks bud. I love things like this.
     
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  10. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    He didn't train him.
     
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  11. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Eddie Futch shortly before his passing said he enjoyed watching Floyd Mayweather. He said Floyd does certain things defensivley that he hadn't seen since the boxers of the late 1930- 40s.
    Something to consider for those convinced boxing skills have advanced.
     
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  13. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I respect Futch's opinion but I wonder how much is nostalgia from his time coming of age watching Ray Robinson. I've always thought Ray was vulnerable at 160 to the very best middleweights of all time far,far more than he was at lower weights as almost all of his losses occurred there. He's certainly top 3 and in my mind the greatest pound for pound fighter in history. Cerdan is a strange choice though, I've thought he was somewhat underrated and believe he'd have beaten LaMotta in a rematch but that ranking is high.
     
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  14. Reinhardt

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    Yeah, I mean can anyone imagine that Cerdan could go 15 with a prime Hagler? I can't see it.
     
  15. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Still high off watching the Miranda fight?