An unbiased look at AJ's top 10 opponents

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  1. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’m not a AJ fan but you can literally do this to any fighters resume. The guy unified 3 belts can’t take that away from his accomplishments. Same for Wilder he defended a title 10 times not many in the HW division has done that even during the weakest eras.
     
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  2. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Interesting thread. I think with Joshua's near back to back dramatic losses it's fair to turn an eye of scrutiny to his resume. We were sold his CV as "By FAR the Best Resume at HW". Over and over I heard this line echoed by people who seemed to be more fans of a fighter than the sport as a whole. AJ's resume is fairly simple to take a realistic look at, as this thread has shown. It's a lesson in brilliant matchmaking, hype building, and the inevitability of an overloaded applecart being turned on its side.
     
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  3. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Active Member Full Member

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    Comes off as pretty bias to me. Do one for Tyson Fury and Wilder and we'll see a very different approach I'm sure.
     
  4. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joshua has a pretty good resume for the standards of the current HW scene, but It’s grossly overstated.
     
  5. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Can't be arsed doing a full breakdown personally but off the top of my head Fury beating WK, Wilder x3 & prime Chisora x2 betters Joshua's best wins over WK, Povetkin & Whyte. Clearly. WK & DW were long reigning champions & Chisora deserved the nod over Whyte in that first fight even at an advanced age. The Klitschko & Wilder Fury fought were both younger than the WK & Povetkin Joshua fought & even though I'm not a huge fan of Wilder he knocks out pretty much everyone Joshua fought barring maybe the old Klitschko maybe. And don't forget as well fury had a long lay off while doing all of this as well. It is clear that fury is greater than Joshua. It's not even in doubt. He also has the better wins too. In fact I'd pick Wallin over a lot of Joshua's opposition. I think that win won't age too badly.
     
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  6. Likethembigroundchunky

    Likethembigroundchunky Member Full Member

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    It took him 6 rounds to dispose of Breazeale. You fail to mention he won every minute of every round.

    I don't see why people waste their time with "hating" on boxers. AJ is good, its obvious. Canelo is good, its obvious. Why can't you just enjoy their boxing while its live and in the moment.
     
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  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    "Unbiased," he said!
     
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  8. uppakut

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    Can you also do Fury's top ten opponents, should be interesting...
     
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  9. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Still waiting for the unbiased version. If we don’t get it, it's obviously false advertisement.

    If you'd do the same for Fury and Wilder, their resume's would be atrocious.
     
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  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    AJ haters say his resume sucks or at least isn't what it seems while at the same time accusing him of ducking Wlad, Povetkin, Parker and even Pulev before he actually fought them. One moment these fighters are too dangerous and being avoided, then Joshua beats them and then they were cherry picked lol.

    All while ignoring the fact nobody else at heavyweight has a resume as deep as his in terms of the number of quality names he's fought.
     
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  11. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If this is unbiased, i'd love to see you really go to town on someone you dislike.

    Joshua has his flaws, but resume isn't one of them - at least not compared to the rest of his division.
     
  12. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is you basically accepting every boxer is manufactured and that boxing is in essence cherrypicking and fooling the public.

    The fact is most cherrypick but there are those that excel it (by excel I mean those who excessively cherrypick and are able to fool more of the public than others - Canelo and Wilder are prime examples)
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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  14. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder -
    Can crushing 40 or so binman maximising hype by fooling casuals. Beats fat joke slob Stiverene. Barely wins a round vs 50yo Ortiz (bar KDs of course) over two fights. In the second, he gets absolutely schooled until Ortiz gets lazy - he is literally cocky smiling at Wilder seconds before he is caught with a right hand.

    Clear as day cherrypicks a fat coke mess Fury and robs him blind. Then as a result of that cherrypick he is forced to fight him again as he has lost all credibility. Gets battered vs Fury twice.

    There's no redeeming quality to Wilders resume and it is 100 % cherrypicked.


    Tyson Fury -
    -Robbed Mcdermott 1
    -very close fight with Chisora 1 wobbled at one point
    -Journeyman Chisora win who, despite being tough as nails and having heart, has the Iq of a bag of potatos
    -Wins against 39yo gun shy Wlad (who is also overrated in the first place) who looked terrible against Jennings the fight before. Fury wins by taking 7-8 rounds, most of which are won by an extra 1-3 scruffy punches (facts I'm afraid, watch the fight back) some of which are not clean ie forearm slaps.
    -Beats a limited well known cherrypicking right hand and still almost gets his lights put out. Batters the 34-36 year old in fights 2 and 3, who looked absolutely shocking in his rematch against 50 year old Ortiz just prior
    -Goes life and death with the now ridiculously overhyped Wallim who also happens to have a laughable resume

    AJs resume, although manufactured, is better than these two turds.
     
  15. Robney

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    Maybe the one making this list is into the more extreme Japanese anime.
     
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