Pacquiao isn't appreciated enough.

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  1. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Oscar and Marquez both said Pacquiao was the best fighter they fought.
     
  2. divac

    divac VIP Member Full Member

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    No doubt Pacquiao was an ATG, but I can think of numerous fighters from 122 lbs to 147 lbs that would beat him head to head.

    Winning titles in multiple weight classes does'nt even hold significant weight as far as factoring the greatness of the fighter nowdays.
    I would venture to guess that Jorge Arce would'nt even cut the top 200 fighters in history by boxing historian standards and yet he's won titles in 5 different weight classes. To many weight classes and the fact that since the advent of the day before official weigh-in, fighters can manipulate the scales and win titles in weight classes they otherwise would'nt be campaigning in.

    GOAT? I dont think Pacquiao even sniffs that status.
     
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  3. AdamT

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    Miguel cotto said Floyd was and he was a stablemate of Pac

    There are numerous videos of marquez saying Floyd would beat manny

    Manny might be greater, but no chance is he better than mayweather
     
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  4. tinman

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    Did he beat Ray Leonard though?
     
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  5. AdamT

    AdamT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Duran had 119 fights with 103 wins
    He also had 70 knockouts
    Absolutely owns 135 as the goat
    Beat one of the very greatest ever at 147
    Fought in 5 separate decades

    Did I mention he fought in the era of 15 rounders and went 15 with Marvin hagler?

    Imagine manny or Floyd fighting such a monster over 15 rounds?

    Duran is way higher
     
  6. tinman

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    Mayweather should be better than Pac cuz hes noticeably bigger. Mayweather should be more worried about being better than guys his own size like Whitaker and Chavez.
     
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  7. JOKER

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    So you have Duran as the GOAT?
     
  8. JOKER

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    So do you have Duran as the GOAT?
     
  9. AdamT

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    Since television era I do

    If all time, we have guys like Ray Robinson, greb etc as arguably greater

    But from video evidence

    Stats

    Level of competition

    Absolutely owning a division

    One of the greatest wins ever v Ray in 80

    Going 15 rounds against a beast like hagler, when he had no business being in the ring with him

    Yes I think he is for sure a prime candidate. He has his faults too, like no mas and being smashed by hearns

    However,the guy was an animal. The punch power worried Leonard, a man who went toe to toe with Hearns

    Duran had great head movement and doesn't get enough credit for his defence

    Even Manny's angles, speed and volume isn't enough. As tenacious as he was, Duran was more than a match and had great timing

    I definitely rate Roberto more than anyone in this era. If he was around now on horse meat?he would smash Canelo to pieces
     
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  10. Pimp C

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    He's not GOAT not even close but he's an atg. He's more than appreciated don't know why you're saying that?
     
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  11. Pimp C

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    The lies they both tell.
     
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  12. JOKER

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    Why would they lie? Certainly not JMM as he genuinely hates Pac.
     
  13. ashishwarrior

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    fact check checks out wrong
    fake news people
     
  14. Pimp C

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    Who's pacs best win mab? That's not good enough to be the GOAT.
     
  15. Mike_b

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    So did Cotto and Mosley