Wladimir vs Vitali - Who Wins the Battle of Brothers?

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Who wins?

  1. Wladimir

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  2. Vitali

    78.6%
  1. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Vitalis defence worked great against small and slow plodders. A post prime Lewis found him with the Jab easily. Wlad would Jab him just as easy and grab in close. Vitali would not risk any midrange due to the left hook. If Vitali was about to win Im thinking of a late stoppage. Cant se him winning enough of The early rounds Due to the Jab of Wlad. Also such dangerous punches would slow the pace down a a bit to Wlads liking especially later on in The fight.
     
  2. Guru88

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    Wlad’s jab wins it for him
     
  3. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone Full Member

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    I think Wlad is the better fighter more talented, faster, hits harder. You talk about who can hurt Vitali in history? Well Wladimir can.
     
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  4. Brighton bomber

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    Lewis had a hell off a jab though, plus Lewis had a crazy reach even for his height with an Ape index of +8 which was 3 inches longer than Wlads. Wlad also lacked the inside game of Lewis, even if he could drive Vitali back with his jab he wouldn't do what Lewis did he'd just back off to re-establish distance which would suit Vitali or he'd clinch and unlike Lewis wouldn't work in the clinch and drive uppercuts in to Vitali's chin.

    Simply put Wlad isn't Lewis, they may have been similar in some ways but it was the differences in Lewis' game that led to success vs Vitali not their similarities.
     
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  5. SmackDaBum

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    Lewis was also listed with an 82 inch reach.

    Wlad would Jab and grab vitali coming in. Left hook and grab of it. He was a better clincher than Lewis so he wouldnt need that uppercut. Wlad also had faster lineal footspeed than Lewis. (and Vitali) he would win the battle at distance and clinch in close. Plus Vitali would not risk taking Wlads power open up at midrange. The fight would have been a chess match and a dirty clinch fest at The same time. Which suits Wlads style better.
     
  6. Ted Stickles

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    Vitali wins not a doubt in my mind.
     
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  7. Loudon

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    Being brothers makes a huge difference here IMHO.

    I don’t believe for a second that Wlad would have possessed the confidence to have beaten his brother and mentor who he’s looked up to his whole life.

    He got smashed by Sanders, and had to watch Vitali go and take him out on his behalf.

    He was also very cautious due to his vulnerabilities.

    If you’ve watched the documentary and studied/followed their careers, you’d know that Wlad would never put himself ahead of Vitali.
     
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  8. Liquorice

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    The crazy thing is I don't think we ever really saw a prime 100% Vitali.. it's well documented that he carried a lot of injuries through from his kickboxing days… And in some of his most high-profile boxing fights there was always some injury that ended it rather than him getting out boxed or knocked out… like Lewis.. I mean he took that one on incredibly short notice.. you don't step into the ring with Lennox Lewis with a couple of weeks prep… This is the thing with Vitali we never really saw the best of him to be honest… He came back old and still dominated which showed how good he was but his earlier career was a bit of shambles for various reasons.. but K2 have to be respected because even though some see them as boring they ripped the heavyweight division away from America and made it their own.. and America has never really taken it back since either.. As for who would win well Vladimir hits harder and does most things better than Vitali he's just more vulnerable .. vitali is a bit more unorthodox and durable & could have a tear up .. it's an interesting one.. I honestly can't pick one.. I wouldn't be surprised if either man won they are fairly evenly matched to be honest I just think Vladimir under Steward tho boring was moulded into a very hard fighter to beat for a good period.. and I'm certainly not going to pick who I think would win based on who is the more vulnerable… That's stupid… I mean James Toney was clearly much more durable than Roy Jones in retrospect yet Jones schooled him… i'm not saying the klitschkos are as talented as those two , just making a point
     
  9. Loudon

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    It’s not about who had the better skills and the more experience.

    It’s about how they’d have matched up stylistically, and what their mentality would have been like.

    Wladimir would have had no belief that he could have beaten his brother.

    Vitali is far more formidable.

    He possessed more mental strength and a tougher chin.

    Wlad is more skilled, but he was weaker and far more vulnerable.
     
  10. Cafe

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    Vitali IMO, Wlad just doesn't deal with adversity well.. And he would face adversity with Vitali.
     
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  11. SmackDaBum

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    The problem with Vitali is that weak resume. He has Lewis, Sanders, Chisora and Peter to be fair. He was never tested enough. Not his fault either. Wlad went thru hell and highwater. And proved Both his strengths and weaknesses making it easier to rate him fair. Attributes I give to Vitali is height, chin (overrated edge) and mental power (no anxious gassing there) and stamina/endurance but most valuable: killer instinct. I also like the idea of Wlitamir Klitschko.
     
  12. Dubblechin

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    I always thought Vitali would win if they ever fought.

    Side note, Vitali's son, Max, is 6'8" and is now taller than Wlad.

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    If we're doing a poll on who will be heavyweight champion in 2035, I'll go with Max Klitschko. ;)
     
  13. Loudon

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    Great post.
     
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  14. Loudon

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    How many times did he get cut badly?

    Wlad was the one who was super cautious.

    Wlad was the one who was vulnerable.

    Wlad was the one who was knocked out 3 times and who was dropped 12/13 times in his career.

    You also have to factor in how Wlad would realistically have felt about facing his big brother and mentor.

    He’d never have believed that he could have beaten his big brother. That’s obvious if you know of their family history.

    Vitali was mentally and physically tougher.

    H2H, he was by far the more formidable fighter.

    Vitali would have been a significant favourite.
     
  15. Loudon

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    They know each other inside out.

    Wlad knows that he’s not as mentally strong as Vitali.

    He knows that for sure.

    Wlad knows that he’s been knocked out 3 times and knocked down 13 times.

    He knows that Vitali hasn’t.

    Vitali knows Wlad’s strengths and weaknesses. He’s his big brother, his mentor and his biggest fan.

    If they HAD to fight or really WANTED to, Vitali would target his weaknesses.

    He wouldn’t even entertain a boxing match with his skilled younger brother.

    He’d have fought him and put him under immense pressure to have exposed his vulnerabilities.
     
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