Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Arthur Abraham at MW in 2007.

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  1. bigtime-skills

    bigtime-skills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    WHAT IF......lmao.....
    This should be in CLASSIC..........
    Floyd D' riders CANNOT accept that Canelo is challenging himself...... Floyd wouldn't fight GGG remember "NO Special Effects." lmao
     
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  2. bigtime-skills

    bigtime-skills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dumb thread. Sounds like a Floyd groupie which is NOT fair to Floyd..
    CLOUT chasing Active fighters............
     
  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    He matches up better with Abraham than he does Sturm, Pavlik, Taylor, etc... He actually matches up ridiculously well with Abraham so it comes down to if the power gets to him enough. Abraham, you could say, would have a "punchers chance." Now weight divisions exist for a reason and Floyd never went above 154 so I dont have a problem with people thinking he couldnt do it. But if there was a top MW he could have beaten during his career, and possibly relatively easily, Abraham may be the one.
     
  4. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Too small in 07, Abraham would have wrecked him .. ppl overlook Abraham as a middleweight because of his hit & miss 168 days but at his peak he was an absolute beast
     
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  5. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People watch Clenelos fake fixed fights at 168+ and now just think weight divisions don't matter.

    Got news for you dumbasses, they matter
     
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  6. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    None of those guys has the size advantage AA would have on Floyd. It would be someone struggling to make 160 v a big, strong MW.

    And Baldomir dude??? Judah?? May as well have used Diego as an example of Floyd beating AA ;)
     
  7. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Eff off and cry about this thread elsewhere....
    WTF clout is AA chasing when he is retired and this was brought up by just a poster....
     
  8. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At his peak Abraham was a terror. Loved watching him fight. Floyd knew better, didn't want to lose that 0.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon VIP Member Full Member

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    I love unusual threads like this.

    It’s very interesting to ponder. But without wanting to be argumentative, if we’re being realistic, we simply have to try and look closely at the psychological aspect of things.

    It’s not a computer game or a movie, where you can just match them up and let them fight.

    You can’t just pick guys to face off without looking at how realistically they’d have approached such a fight.

    Whilst it’s obviously impossible to know exactly how each opponent would have felt about the fight and how their strategies would exactly have played out because of that, we have to try and be objective where we make reasonable assumptions based upon their characteristics. In my opinion, this is not me being boring. It’s simply me being realistic.

    In the real world, Floyd would never have taken such a fight. We know this. But for the benefit of the thread, we’ll assume that he did/had to.

    At WW, Floyd was a safety first fighter in the majority of his fights.

    On a P4P basis, he was levels above Arthur Abraham.

    Yet the only thing that’s relevant, is how they’d have matched up stylistically and how they’d have approached the fight.

    Now despite Floyd being on another level on a P4P basis, you have to ask yourself how confident and how offensive minded Floyd would realistically have been in fighting Arthur Abraham at MW.

    Now you have to ask the same of Abraham.

    Abraham had a high guard and a low output against fellow MW’s and SMW’s. But against Floyd, it would have been a one off fight against a WW.

    So how would Abraham have realistically have approached such a fight?

    Would he have fought Floyd in the same manner as he fought everyone else?

    Or would he have made an exception, where he’d have fought more aggressively, where he’d have thrown more punches than he normally did, in this anomaly of a fight against a small, defensive opponent who had zero power at the weight?

    Of course, we’ll never know the answers to these questions. But if you want to debate the fight, I think it’s only fair that you make an educated guess.

    Personally, I think that Floyd certainly had the talent to pull it off. But I don’t think he’d have had the mindset. I believe that he’d have fought defensively, where Abraham would have fought more offensively than normal, where he’d have backed Floyd up with power and aggression.

    It’s okay people saying that Abraham was pretty basic and that Floyd’s one of the greatest of all time, but it’s always about styles.

    Floyd put in master classes against guys like Gatti and Canelo, yet Marcos Maidana gave him an absolute nightmare in their first fight, based on aggression, strength and supreme confidence.

    I would definitely have made Abraham a significant favourite.
     
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  10. Loudon

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    The guy who you’ve referenced was a 6ft MW who also fought as a LHW.

    He has no relevance to Floyd, who was a small, defensive WW with zero power.

    If Floyd had wanted to have taken such a fight, he would have done. The fact that he didn’t speaks volumes.

    AA did stay in that high guard whilst producing a low punch out put against fellow MW’s and SMW’s. But would he have fought that way against Floyd?

    What if he’d have had no respect for Floyd as a MW, and he’d have fought Floyd offensively and aggressively whilst producing a higher than normal out put? Then what?

    How confident and offensive minded would Floyd have been in fighting a fully fledged MW?

    All relevant things to ponder.

    It’s not about who the better fighter was, it’s how they’d have matched up on the night.
     
  11. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Given how Abraham would be the biggest fighter Floyd has fought, and the fact that he was a hard puncher, if he lands a punch, more than likely, Floyd's going to sleep.
     
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  12. Loudon

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    IF Floyd had taken the fight, he’d obviously have known that going in. Which is why I think he’d have fought very cautiously and defensively. He just wouldn’t have mounted enough offence in order to have won the majority of the rounds.
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon VIP Member Full Member

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    Can I ask why you think that Floyd would have had a good chance of winning?