AJ is going to beat Usyk

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  1. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    AJ coming in leaves him vulnerable to tiring out and counter punches, especially hooks.
     
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  2. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly correct.
    People have short memories. A lot of people wrote him off after the first fight with Andy it was different circumstances against a different fighter but the point remains that when someone takes a loss a lot of people just write them off.
    Theres an old saying "Theres nothing more fickle than folk"
    I want Usyk to win because I like him in and out of the ring I'm however keeping an open mind.
    Heavyweight has a habit of creating the upset more regularly than the lower weights it's the way it's always been.
     
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  3. Jason Gordon

    Jason Gordon Active Member banned Full Member

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    The problem is, I think Usyk can be even better.
     
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  4. UFC2020

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    Usyk knows AJ will come after him in the rematch. He will be prepared to weather the storm and fight back later when AJ tires
     
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  5. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    You have to ask yourself. In the 15th round of the last fight when Usyk was hitting AJ a lot. Why didn't he go down ?
    Joshua has a glass jaw, right ? Maybe Usyk can't KO a heavy, even with a glass jaw. So if Joshua goes for the KO himself and doesn't worry about getting KO'd maybe the fight will go like the ones before Ruiz.
    If Joshua can get up after being knocked down by Wladimir (who hits waaaay harder than Usyk) why can't that same scenario play out here. Usyk is a great boxer but he is not a heavyweight KO threat. Somebody with some nards can beat him.
     
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  6. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    TBF it depends on the fighter and the loss - if they're getting old or if it's a major beating then maybe you wouldn't be surprised if they don't come back... If they were never that good to begin with, poor resume etc then you wouldn't be surprised if they don't come back.
     
  7. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree it depends on context but in relation to Joshua he's still physically prime.
    My concern with Joshua is his mental state of mind. He knows what he has to do and if he loses then it's going to be a long road back.
     
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  8. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    True - I didn't necessarily mean that in regards to AJ necessarily though.

    To be fair though, he got his gameplan wrong in #1 much the same as in Ruiz #1 - obviously there was enough mental strength there then to accept that fact like a man and go away and rectify it... You'd think it'd be harder to do that after being broken down and battered than it would be after a UD outclassing?

    Whether it's enough or not is a big question, but I don't think it's impossible.
     
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  9. Col Mortimer

    Col Mortimer The question isn't indiscreet.The answer could be Full Member

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    Good opinion and summary mate.

    My sentiments are pretty much as yours and I agree with most of your post other than AJ under performing in the first bout. That's if you meant AJ under under performed as in his boxing ability rather than his potential ability to use his size, strength and once held dog for a different type of fight.

    I was surprised and thought AJ boxed well overall in the first bout, and his gas tank held up pretty well too, and on par with Usyk upto and including the 11th round.

    Having said that I don't think AJ can improve enough boxing wise in the rematch to make a difference in genuine scoring for a 'legit' win.

    As you've mentioned though, it is possible he could well try and nick a few extra rounds or make them a bit messy to get the Matchroom Nod. Very plausible unfortunately.

    Let's just hope then, that AJ throws the dice in the rematch as he's been hinting at in recent interviews and returns to his pre-Wlad dog.

    Fireworks, we want fireworks
     
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  10. Col Mortimer

    Col Mortimer The question isn't indiscreet.The answer could be Full Member

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    Lol, Nah. Miniq is high IQ.

    He's just very artistic in his posts and as slippery as a naked and totally shaved Tyson Fury in a bath full of jellied eels with added baby oil . Fully scented.


    Try and pin him down and you'll fail but very much enjoy trying.

    'winks at' @miniq
     
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  11. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not sure. I mean the loss to Andy must have been a shock but as you say he got in a dogfight when he'd not recovered so the rematch was easier to gamplan helped by Andy coming in far worse shape.
    It's harder to gauge the Usyk fight because I think it's combination of Usyk outboxing him and Joshua underperforming and only getting some success in the mid rounds.
    The problem for Joshua is that was too late as Usyk tends to turn it on in the second half once he's timed someone and makes the required adjustments.
    Some might say that Joshua underperformed because Usyk outboxed him I'm just not convinced it's as simple as that I could well be proven wrong in the rematch.
    So maybe as some are saying on here Joshua may need to try and take Usyk out.
    I don't really know to be honest until we see them both in the ring.
    I have a feeling it maybe more exciting than the first because risks are going to be taken if the result is going to change.
     
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  12. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    I agree with most of you.

    In order to win AJ will have to gamble.

    The problem is that when you gamble in a boxing ring, heart and chin are major assets. And AJ well.... you know... he doesnt excel in those areas.

    But he has good power and a considarable size advantage, so he could get quite a profit by gambling. Probably his best chance.
     
  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No.

    Look at Usyk's face after the fight...Joshua already did his best. He just doesn't have it.

    Usyk is going to beat him again and move on to Fury.
     
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  14. Col Mortimer

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    There's always that mate. Even tho I'm picking Usyk I wouldn't put more than 10 Bob on it.


    Mind you I am tighter than two coats of paint
     
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  15. Col Mortimer

    Col Mortimer The question isn't indiscreet.The answer could be Full Member

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    Fireworks mate.

    Drama on both sides.

    I can't wait.
     
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